The only issue I could see is if Ramsey is going to be adamant about a new deal after he gets traded.

And you give him the new deal. Can still re sign Jones and Mahomes but good luck trying to get any free agents to come here. Won’t have the money

This.

I'm out on this guy. I can certainly understand why some are in, but i'll pass.

Hey it’s everyones favorite!! The Gunslingiest

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lots of competition for Ramsey. Chiefs are in the mix but not sure we’ll be the winning bid. Similar situation as Minkah</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1174008837159997443?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Uh no. Chris Jones is gone if we give Ramsey huge money

Won't need the money. You'll have everything already. Now you'll fill the holes via the draft and low tier F/A's.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Conflicting reports amongst the NFL talking heads, but the Chiefs have do have some interest, but is it high enough to get a deal done? I hear NO but I have heard &quot;at the right price&quot; - Other names mentioned this AM: Darius Slay, Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson. <a href="https://t.co/F2gcaLD5xq">https://t.co/F2gcaLD5xq</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Kingdom Editorial Board (@1_ChiefsKingdom) <a href="https://twitter.com/1_ChiefsKingdom/status/1173979695446020097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

New CBA looming...don't forget that.

Ramsey is a product of a losing environment.. bring him to a winning environment and he will thrive... just my two cents..

You don't have to keep Jalen Ramsey here for a long time.

A couple of years then move him.

Cap goes up every year. Tv deal getting done. New cba coming up. It can happen

It's a done deal guys

Quit posting this Nick Athan-like bullshit.

****ing christ you're an annoying poster.

Winning teams have this weird way about curing bad attitudes.

Why would the Lions trade Darius Slay? Why would we want Jenkins or Johnson?

Trumaine Johnson? The guy getting paid $70 million by the Jets and they just benched him? **** no.

And if you’re trading for Janoris Jenkins.....then it better be for Ragland straight up.

So Marty is Nick Athan?

That guy is so full of shit.

He and Clay are just trying to live off the back of that KCTV5/KCStar fallout.

I love how fans on a message board concern themselves so much with the money aspect and the salary cap....in this day and age, they have ways of making it work.

This. This is the real reason he's upset. Most of the media - especially here in Jax - are missing this. He's been pissed since they re-signed Bortles.

How many short fuses can a roster, coaching staff, ownership manage??

Tag and trade him....Jones that is.

Would rather pay an elite CB and an elite DL guy rather than tie up a huge chunk of $$ in two spots on the DL.

How many short fuses do we have?

Last i checked the tally was 0.

McVay sure seems to be handling it ok...

If you trust your culture and the system you've built, it shouldn't be an issue.

BB & the Pats sure to handle it pretty well.

That's what winning does.

I just hope it's not another miss out situation for us. If you go in, go in big enough to get him.

Compare Gilmore to Ramsey. Gilmore's persona is not that way and he is better than Ramsey IMHO. Confidence vs cockiness/swagger is like night and day. Far different. Anytime you have to continually "toot your own horn" about how great you are, most of the time you are not as great as you 'think' you are. Don't get me wrong here, I get your point BUT when you go out of your way to do it that it shows extreme insecurity which always comes back to bite you. Just ask Manziel and Baker in due time.

Ali and Deion Sanders were the only ones who got away with that schtick but then again did they really? Ali fought waaaaaaay too long and suffered Parkinson's because of ego and lack of $$. Deion is a terminal "attention whore" who can't give the lime light up and demands that you acknowledge his greatness "at all times" everywhere he goes and his opinion and blessing are the only thing that count. Besides he chose not to tackle and good running offenses went right at him which was his achilles heel of his career. He embarrasses himself IMHO every time his show is on regardless of his takes.

This franchise has spent the better part of their history trying to employ "The right 53" guys. Avoiding big personalities, or hushing them otherwise.

Zero championships in 50 years, guys.

The Deions, Taylors, Lewises, and Ramseys of the world come with attitude. But attitude wins championships.

Veach has shown he doesn’t care about your past. If you perform you will get paid

YEP!!!1 50 ****ing years people, let that shit sink in.

From the Boston news channel

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don&#39;t expect Jalen Ramsey to land with the Kansas City Chiefs.<br><br>DETAILS: <a href="https://t.co/1pDJM7rqVz">https://t.co/1pDJM7rqVz</a> <a href="https://t.co/nO66JeKmwq">pic.twitter.com/nO66JeKmwq</a></p>&mdash; NESN (@NESN) <a href="https://twitter.com/NESN/status/1174011693728436225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They used Chadiha's tweet as a reference...

Of course Boston doesn't want him here lol.

NO TO RAMSEY!!!!

Ok, I'm good now.

$200 million QB coming up too. That kinda changes things.

Pic of JR "Bawling with his dogs!" :deevee:

Pats fans being scared is a sign that we should make a strong push for Ramsey.

250 more like it. What are the chances he takes a homewtwon discount even if it’s like from 45 a year to 40?

He better do it like Tom Brady IF he wants a solid team around him at all times especially a Fort Knox type of o-line to protect him, just saying.:shrug:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing Jalen Ramsey is heading to Chiefs</p>&mdash; Steven Golden (@GBSportsPicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/GBSportsPicks/status/1174006198401503232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Who this?

Seems like he has a reputation of tweeting AFTER things are announced so he looks credible. This is likely a shit source

I’m starting to think the Terez report is to drive the price down. I don’t think Honey badger and Tyreek would be recruiting without having told the team that they are OK with bringing him along

Betting handicapper who was out in front of AB stuff from the looks of it

Well he has a lot of followers and his timeline is actually not bad....

Ramsey a Chiefs would be epic but come on man. No way this gets done.

Golden is a Vegas handicapper. Those guys don't make a habit out of floating unfounded bullshit since their jobs literally depend on credibility.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll take 90% correct on my sources. I literally gave you news on AB sexual harassment issues 3 days before it came out, so if you don’t think I’m credible, that’s just your personal issue</p>&mdash; Steven Golden (@GBSportsPicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/GBSportsPicks/status/1174016606105554945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not saying he knows this but man...Vegas handicappers have a way of knowing shit lol, it's weird.

Finding that out more and more.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hope this source is wrong. Chiefs fans are bozos</p>&mdash; Steven Golden (@GBSportsPicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/GBSportsPicks/status/1174019586921918470?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Nice post.

Yep, that is what I said about the Steelers burning a 1st round pick- 10 minutes later they pulled the trigger.

Image if this D. gives Mahomes 4 - 7 times a game having the ball over last year, because they are getting turnovers and stops on 3rd down? :p

**** this guy

HA!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hope this source is wrong. Chiefs fans are bozos</p>&mdash; Steven Golden (@GBSportsPicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/GBSportsPicks/status/1174019586921918470?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

lmaooooooooooo

What loophole?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ive been wrong a few times on sources, but this information i get relayed to me<br><br>My incorrect ones are the ones that are remembered. (Daryl Johnson source on Kawhi was wrong)<br><br>Chiefs source on Tyreek was correct until a loophole happened in the legal system. Plan was to release</p>&mdash; Steven Golden (@GBSportsPicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/GBSportsPicks/status/1174016185760796672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lol.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No, im not reporting Ramsey to the Chiefs. Simply forwarding what i heard. Lets not all shit our pants until it actually happens</p>&mdash; Steven Golden (@GBSportsPicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/GBSportsPicks/status/1174018160556535808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I saw that Tyreek post too.

He sounds full of shit if you ask me.

That's hurtful.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...leVk96JHpqo4hO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No, im not reporting Ramsey to the Chiefs. Simply forwarding what i heard. Lets not all shit our pants until it actually happens</p>&mdash; Steven Golden (@GBSportsPicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/GBSportsPicks/status/1174018160556535808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per rival clubs, the asking price for Jaguars CB Jalen Ramsey is two first-round picks.<br><br>That&#39;s a starting point. And added to what it&#39;d cost to extend Ramsey, it&#39;s a lot. But it&#39;s not totally crazy, given what Seattle got for Frank Clark and Miami got for Laremy Tunsil.</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1174020529860358155?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Honestly looking at his timeline dude has been solid and nailed a lot of stuff correctly

And.....I'm out.

DO IT VEACH!!

I don’t mind two firsts, just don’t want to extend him. Recoup them later.

Nah. Let Ramsey drive the price down with his toxicity.

What a dumb ass! STFU

I doubt you trade for him without having an extension in place.

I think you have a great point and thanks for your takes. I think the insecurity issues could be related to emotional concerns though. I think that’s the main problem in that some of these athletes lose out on managing their emotions properly that it interferes with their ability to focus and that could translate into them failing to get themselves together. Marcus Peters is a classic example of that. Imo, thats where the breakdowns start to happen.

That might be the case with Ramsey? Well, at least we saw glimpses of that recently. But, if he doesn’t manage that stuff and fails to get it get that together in that sense that could effect him down the road?

Also, this topic could be argued. Its really debatable. There are many psychological strategies/tactics that could work to make a successful athlete. And the strategies that are used vary from individual to individual. What works for one may not be best suited or fitted for the other. I guess it all depends on the individual?

One could say that maybe Ramsey acts the way he does because its his way of creating his own self fulfilling prophecy. Sometimes I believe that you are a product of what you believe in. So there is that. Plus, even if he is insecure, its good in a way to act the way if it means positive reinforcement so he doesn’t fall off his own wagon so to speak.

Doesn't seem ridiculous for a young all-pro CB

You'd have to have something agreed to because part of the issue here is the players drafted in front of him, one of which is a RB, all have new contracts.

Now what the Chiefs could do is kick the can down the line past 2020, if they think this cap is going to explode they could keep the team together if they kick it down the line to buy time.

If two firsts is where it starts, they don't really want to trade him.

That's a "sure, we'll trade him if you blow us away" amount.

They need to let him address the media again. :doh!:

Nothing worse a bunch of bozos shitting their pants.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6d/b1...0d3c6d1556.jpg

Yep

I kinda mind two firsts.

Not really, that would be about the going rate for a player of his caliber, age, and position.

Wow, you're pretty smart to figure that out.

Yeah im out on two 1sts.

That would be what, 4 consecutive years w/o a 1st round pick?

They're gonna end up just losing him for nothing, he blatantly doesn't want to be there.