This deserves repeating...

Same as it ever was.

Same as it ever was.

Are we even sure that the Chiefs could have beaten the Texans if Carr hadn't gone down? If Carr was still healthy.....we weren't getting that #2 seed. And I'm not so sure that the Texans would have rolled over.

I'm not saying Pitt was the better team but we matched up much better with the Pats than Pitt.

The only thing that matters is they played Pitt. If you hold a team out of the end zone you really should win the game. Alex and company probably left 20 points on the field

Bullshit.. If ****-face Hunt wasn't afraid he would have told Andy that he's giving up being the actual OC, clock manager, and play-caller; told Alex to grow a pair (and he's on a short leash), and after that last game he would have at least made some public statement to indicate he was going to question all the non-holds.

He's a pussy and a gutless coward! **** him! He needs to sell and let a real owner, one with balls, take over.

Your Clark Hunt hatred is really beyond unhealthy and really just silly.

You may want to get some meds dude.

This franchises postseason history the last 40+ years is enough to make people bitter

I fail to see Clark's responsibility in 40 years of failure.

He has pretty much done everything you would ask an owner to do since taking over.

I think people have a seriously uninformed concept on what owners in the NFL actually are responsible for.

He's literally allowed the same things to happen that has held this team back for decades.

Lighten up Francis.

47

Ugh!

You CAN'T be serious! You're falling for the Hunt family bullshit for the umteenth time! They make a change, make up a slogan like "five year plan", then rake-in the money for five years.

JFC, the family refuses to draft QBs! And they're not willing to throw a season in anticipation of a bumper crop of potential QBOF college graduates. Yeah, THAT'S what I expect an owner to do. I also expect them to tell the Andy's of the world that they have to do/change certain things, because they're obviously not working. And I also expect the owner to NOT take the Steeler game without a public word. I don't give a shit what he might be doing in private (prolly nothing!), I think most Chiefs fans want to know why those holds weren't called. Rant and rave? No. But you certainly saw Kraft step-up and say something when he thought he was getting ****ed. Yeah, a little of that.

You aren't going to tell Andy Reid to stop calling plays. That comes with him being HC. If you did he would just find another team, and there are plenty that will have him. He is a great coach. Anyone that doesn't have their head up their ass knows that.

Let him walk then.

Leave it to CP to want the best coach we've had in decades to leave. Bunch of ****ing dumbasses you are.

:rolleyes:

Please do tell, what had Hunt "allowed" to happen?

You are literally insane on this topic, its like trying to talk to a 4 year old.

Tap-out accepted. Seriously, you've found every excuse in the book, then some, to excuse the Hunt family for 47 years of not having their team in the SB.

Seriously, you impress me as the kind of person who would never have spoken poorly of Lamar because he brought the Chiefs to KC and was a big part of the NFL in the 60s and 70s, but now that he's gone you're going to ride Clark's newness until he's old, then untouchable.

And was it you that was talking about "he's done everything a person can do...."? Now we're finding out that what he can't do is control an employee and demand that he fix his shortcomings? Like his hands are tired or something?

JF man, this is a business, Andy complies or he's gone. And if Andy's the only one who doesn't see his own shortcomings, **** him, he's not coherent enough to keep.

EDIT: And perhaps you're just a little too forgiving of our overlord.

Trading for a retread and failing
Trading for another retread from SF and sticking with him for too long
Not drafting a QB early in the draft

Apparently you have zero idea what its like to hire and deal with people.

Clark paid top $$ to Pioli and Dorsey, and Reid. When you do that you put faith in their decision making,you don't pay a GM and coach a ton of money then direct them to draft a guy no matter what etc...You tell them to make the best decisions they know how to make to ensure success of the team.

Do you honestly think Clark told them here you go, do whatever you want, I don't care if we win a SB, or draft a QB?

You and GloryDayze are the perfect example of the know it all fan who thinks they could own a team when you couldn't run a 7-11 and have never likely managed, hired, or fired anyone on your life.

You know what a good owner in the NFL does? He writes big fat ass checks to the best people you can hire and if it doesn't work you shit can them and find someone else, and Clark has been doing that.

You guys are clueless.

Coach of the year. CP knows dick about football.

Clark has had this franchise for 10 years now and it's been the same as the last almost 4 decades. I think getting Andy was a great move. I applaud him for that, but being a playoff team shouldn't be the goal.

If Andy doesn't want to get rid of Alex and draft his own QB in the near future, then he needs to be fired plain and simple.

This is a business and simply "making the playoffs" isn't good enough anymore. It's time to start taking the next step and achieving the goal.

If you aren't making steps to achieve your goal, you're stagnant.

47 years of Hunt family ownership that's not been to a SB!

As for the cheap insults, just stop. We know as much about football as you do. Hell we know enough about it to know that 47 years is alarming, and that the status quo isn't going to get it done. And if you think anecdotal moves isn't the status quo, and that forcing Andy to change or let him walk isn't what a manager does to an employee, you must not be in management. At some point as a supervisor you have to step in and help en employee, even if they don't think thy need it.

And with the looks of strength of schedule "47" might very well turn into "48." The excuse mill might need to start early and be greased often! Why, because we have Andy back with all of his bad habits not being compensated for, along with his cast of goons, and Alex wearing his QBOTF ribbon.

I hope Andy is secretly reading this, getting really mad, and decides to secretly change "just to show Glorydayz"! I'd love to eat crow while watching my hometown Chiefs at next year's SB!

**** Hunt!

Nothing in my comments is in reference to your "football" knowledge. It has more to do with your irrational, emotional, lunatic fringe point of view.

Clark is doing what he needs to be doing. Period. You just simply don't like the guy we all know this.

I do have to laugh at the strength of schedule comment. Every single year that is thrown out and turns out to be wrong 90% of the time.

Wait, I was excited when Clark took over because I thought he's do something different, and he really hasn't. Yes, he hired Reid, but his dad hired Dick. Dick took us to a playoff game, and we lost it badly! But again, it's more of the same.

I was happy when they got Andy, but it's obvious that's no working out. Partly because they won't force him to accept some tweaks to his style, but either way, it's not working.

Heck, I wasn't upset when they got Alex, but this many years later it's pretty clear he's not going to end the streak!

So don't say I don't like the guys when they started, I just don't have to sit here and take their unwillingness to change.

And I'm really pissed about Clark not making any public statements about the missed holds after the last game. **** him, those were terrible misses by a crew that's not adverse to calling holds and DPI. Clark has no pride IMO, or he's say something, anything, to let us know he's pissed too.

The truth is he the young owner, and the other owner's bitch, or he'd say something. And I don't believe he'll say JACK SHIT in private to them either.

Clark Hunt isn't going to hire a Coach/GM and then tell them how to build a team, or what kind of offense/defense they should run. He's not Jerry Jones, and his passion for the game/franchise doesn't run to that kind of depth.

While I don't disagree, I'm not asking him to go into that level of detail. However, I do expect him to deal with glaring employee problems that any person can see that are affecting the team's ability to make it to a SB.

And I dam well expect him to get off his ass, act like he has a pair, and tell the league to shove it when he sees those holds that were selectively not called.

Fact, not fiction #FNF

Hell of a job by Reid, Toub, and Sutton this year...simply amazing.

You have to be a complete moron to think those 3 dod anything less than a stellar job this year.

Reid does a good job at getting his players to play together! He does a terrible job at times with clock management and attacking defenses. It was good enough to be 12-4. We only won the West because Derek Carr broke his ****ing leg, if that doesnt happen. Carr is MVP and Del Rio is Coach of the Year. Its more or less defaulted to Reid. Reid's a solid Coach, but he's solid in the terms of Marty. Will do just good enough to be competitive but never a serious threat to win a Super Bowl. It is what it is.

Oakland was given three early season games...only reason they were in the running. We swept them CONVINCINGLY

We barely won 1 of the games, the first game we smoked them no doubt, but hell, we lost to some shitty ass teams, its just how it is. Again. Reid was pretty much defaulted the award because of the Injury to Carr.

Barely won ROFL the **** you smoking. Oakland beat NOBODY last year. Tampa and Tenn aren't "shitty" anyway.

Sorry man, cHunt just ain't that guy and never will be.

**** yeah! Losing a playoff game at home, going one and done; brilliant goddamned work. Who else in the league could replicate such an accomplishment?
The greatest accomplishment is that the team managed to bypass the ReidSmith stepping all over its own dick, and to get as far as they did with that great deficiency working against them, yes.

Good job. Good effort.

Love stacking up those "nice years"!

Considering the number of injuries that is very true. But the haters don't go by facts and reason, they go by emotion.

Blame the guy that can't see a streaking Hill. There is no play call that said ignore him, he's just going for a sprint. Plus, when the refs simply won't allow a game to be tied, what are u gonna do??

Smith was running to his right toward the sideline when Hill came open in the middle of the field (to his left and behind him). He would have had to throw across his body, while defenders were chasing him, 40 yards down the field. Aaron Rodgers might be able to make that throw, but Alex Smith never will. Bitching that he didn't make a throw he had no possibility of making anyway is kind of stupid.

True, but it's hard to blame play calling with stills every week of wide open streaking guys getting ignored.

Before the snap... the DB on Hill slides over for a blitz. If Alex didn't pick up that movement, and his line isn't calling that shit out to him, that is a huge problem. If Alex's first read is, I believe, Maclin on the left side whom he doesn't throw to because he sees the CB running up, and the DB on Hill is blitzing... a more aware QB would have known there was a huge mismatch with Hill vs Safety and taken a look.

As to his having to throw across his body... he wouldn't have had to had he not left a clean pocket. Harrison was, I believe, about 12-14 years away from him when Smith bolted to his right. I understand not wanting to take a sack there but he also cannot be that skiddish if we are going to win games based on his intelligence and accuracy (despite his lack of arm strength).

He doesn't really play smart though

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Sorry, this middle of the night nonsense needs to be highlighted.

Wow, just wow.

Your ego is writing posts that your brain can't cash.

Please think before you post.

The Chiefs certainly were the only team with injuries this year. And who knows, maybe our "system" (bubble screens, and rarely stretching the D) allows for more injuries because, well, it sets players up to get killed.

And I've already got you marked down for the same excuse next year. Probably when JC (as much as we all love him) might have a hard time staying healthy. Maybe JM pushes too hard again. Alex bumps his head again. (that last one didn't matter, sorry) Our punter suffers an ingrown toenail on his kicking foot. Who knows, excuses are very well farmed around 1 Arrowhead Way.

I'm sorry you're upset. :bolt:

What? You might want to watch again! Unless you're arguing that Alex Smith needs to the WR to be 10 yards passed the defender to agree that he's probably open, I think this shows that he was pretty much looking at him when it's pretty clear the Hill is going to fly by the defender.

Tom Brady sees this match-up 99 times out of a 100, and lays the ball in the bread basket 95 out of the 99 times!

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Any word on a possible extension for Big Red?


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Bumpity bump bump Bumpity bump bump... look at our season go

Might as well leave this right here...seems like as good a time as any.

I don't understand how he can be an absolute genius at times then miss obvious decisions.

Still a stupid thread

He will only achieve genius status he he names Mahomes the starter for next weeks home game against the Bills.

Bad game for Andy Reid that is for sure.

Because Andy is too slow for the game, too arrogant to realize it, and too confident to make substantive changes on the fly.

He’s re hashed garbage. The chiefs deserve all the shit they get with Reid.

FXD.

Their is no way around the fact.
Reid is not going to the promised land with any club let alone the Chiefs

AFC West best Division in football! omg how that changed.

This

Thank u

Greg Gabriel
@greggabe
Been told a few times now that a certain very successful NFL coach wants out from his current team. And no Chicago fans, it’s not Fox. This coach feels it’s time for a change
6:06 PM · Nov 19, 2017

Scout in the league for a long time so he has contacts. Not sure this is Andy with Mahomes here and a new contract.

My guess is Arians.

It's the guy behind center holding them back....same as in Philly.

There we were Rumors that Arinas was gonna retire after this year. Wouldn't make sense that Reid would want out since he just got extended and seemingly won a power struggle with Dorsey.

I think Reid holds us back in a lot of ways, but I also think he's a perfect coach for mahomes. So I'd rather see what he can do with a qb who can let it loose. I'm OK with keeping him around. Unless Alex has some amazing turnaround that's the domino I think that most needs to fall.

Paralysis by analysis.

When can the Chiefs find another Hank Strahm? Someone that isn't part of some coaching tree, hasn't been fired from another team and isn't content with winning the division. A coach that will hire the best people and not just coat tail riders. One that will build a team that doesn't require 4/7th of the cap to go to a bending defense, one that will get rid of players that don't perform.

Oh wait, the Chiefs have an owner that would rather watch futball than football. It all starts at the top.

Tired of retread coaches and players. I know Mahomes is going to play at some point so the retread quarterback experiment will end soon.

This isn't the year to fire Reid. So many teams will be looking for a head coach this offseason.

Well said. And there is no answer because a winning organization starts at the top. Our "top" is a bitch, and only liked by other owners because his team will never be a threat to the serious teams.

I'm sure that's exactly what fat-Andy is laughing about right now. He's not prepping a practice that starts with 60 minutes of gassers, or working on who to bring up from the practice squad to replace players who won't play anyway.

Our team's leadership just doesn't care, certainly not any more than the owner.

Reid is fine. What he needs is a QB. He drafted one. I say Mahomes gets some starts this season.

Every HC looks great when they have stud QB's.

With a competent passer he wouldn't feel so inclined to have to use gimmicks to create big plays in the passing game.

Alex is so ****ing incompetent that he has to draw up passing plays for Kelce and Hill.

....he could bench him and avoid this but keeps on with Alex so he's culpable as well.

It's coming. Oh yes, it is.

If you're going to place Alex at Reid's feet, then you must also give him credit for recognizing that Alex isn't the answer....

I do.

Just wish it was now.....instead of inevitably next season (barring injury).

Make the ****ing change Andy you fat ****!! Show some walrus balls!!

Reid needs to be completely stripped of playcalling duties. No more useless bubble screens and WR/TE interceptions at the worst possible times.

Not happening.