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GloryDayz 12-18-2016 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12628170)
How many times have we had terrible a second half performances at home. Shut out in our last two at home I think. Some of that falls on the hc/oc for calls/philosophy.

Andy and Alex have AIDS... They suck.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-19-2016 08:50 AM

It's shit execution. Alex pick wasn't a poor play call...neither was DATs HUUUUGE drop.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-19-2016 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12628609)
It's shit execution. Alex pick wasn't a poor play call...neither was DATs HUUUUGE drop.

Maclin had 1 on 1 and couldn't shake his guy. Why Harris was on the field over Tyreek is a joke.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-19-2016 09:03 AM

rabble was banned??

Pasta Little Brioni 12-19-2016 09:05 AM

Kelce had shaken free on the pick...

KChiefs1 12-19-2016 11:43 AM

Many here will love this story.

http://sportsspotlight.com/blog/chiefs-insider-121816/





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OnTheWarpath15 12-19-2016 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12628938)
Many here will love this story.

http://sportsspotlight.com/blog/chiefs-insider-121816/





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Does Nick get paid by the comma?

GloryDayz 12-19-2016 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12628938)
Many here will love this story.

http://sportsspotlight.com/blog/chiefs-insider-121816/





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I thought this part was especially accurate:

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Andy Reid is Out of Touch



With another meltdown loss at home to a lessor talent at Arrowhead stadium, this time to the Tennessee Titans, it’s clear Head Coach, Andy Reid is not the man to lead the Chiefs to a Super Bowl.



I’m not going to sugar coat this column.


After witnessing the Kansas City Chiefs offense become unhinged after dashing out to a 14-0 lead, only to have victory snatched by a Tennessee Titans team at the last second, it’s clear Head Coach, Andy Reid is not the right long term head coach for this franchise.



Before I get the middle finger from those saying I’m overreacting, consider that Reid never targeted Tyreek Hill one time after the first quarter. Think about that? He didn’t dial up another play for KC’s best offensive weapon the rest of the game – instead using him as a decoy to run the ball in spaces that were filled by Titans defenders.



Reid has bungled the offensive side of the ball this season despite a good defense. Now to give equal time, Defensive Coordinator, Bob Sutton gets some blame today as well – his play calling against the Titans – lacked any aggression. He played the Titans as if he was facing Joe Montana and the San Francisco 49ers in their prime. He coached today with fear.



With the loss, the Chiefs go from an Arrowhead home team in January to a likely wild card team in the post season. With a win over the Titans, they had a playoff spot sown up and a near lock as the AFC’s #2 entry in the post season – with just one more victory this season.



Now Reid must scramble to save his coaching legacy by winning Christmas Night against the Denver Broncos at home, and on the road a week later at San Diego. Personally, I don’t see KC winning both if Reid has a headset and a playbook on his person.



Yes, that’s harsh but it’s honest.



I don’t get paid to sugar coat the fan in me that has bled red for five decades. I’ve seen everything you can as a fan, had my heart broken time and time again, but what I see now from Reid, is a head coach that will never guide the Chiefs to a Super Bowl.



Before he arrived in Kansas City, the knocks on Reid, were red zone play calling and clock management. In this game the clock didn’t beat Reid, but his own ego and inability to understand the ebb and flow of a game, ultimately did.



Let’s give them credit the Titans are no pushovers.



Still, I can’t find a single reason to defend their victory over a Chiefs team that had so much riding Sunday at Arrowhead. I’ve said it before, I’m tired of Reid taking blame and responsibility after games for his errors. His actions are the only things that matter now, and winning a Super Bowl, is the ONLY goal that matters to Chiefs fans.



Ed Zurga/AP Photo
Ed Zurga/AP Photo
Reid’s failures can be solely attributed to the primary fact; he does not treat every NFL game, every quarter and every series as if it were the post season every Sunday. During his coaching tenure, in Kansas City and Philadelphia, his coaching style has become too rigid for the new NFL brand on the field – where you must be more tactician than head coach.



In his latest head coaching gaffe, Reid continues to shackle his quarterback, Alex Smith, one of the best playmakers in the game (Hill) and his All Pro Tight End, Travis Kelce. However, his play calling in the second half was ludicrous, unimaginative and border line offensive to the fan base.



Yet despite all that, Reid just needed to call one more play to earn a win on Sunday. So what did he do?



Reid called a ridiculous play for Smith to execute on an option sweep that I saw coming from 1500 miles away! Where was that play call facing third or fourth down from the one-yard line in the second quarter up 14-7 – when you ended up with no points? Why dial a pass in the red zone late in the third quarter (that was intercepted) when a field goal, pushes the game into forcing two touchdowns by your opponent to win.



Reid is one of the highest paid head coaches in the NFL, and to earn that coin, you get it two ways. One win a Super Bowl, or convince an owner, you can – Reid appears better at the latter. After today’s loss to the Titans, Reid is simply an average head coach on an above average football team – that has a high ceiling with the right man running the offense.



After the season, Reid will have one year left on his five-year contract but his coaching staff does not. I know it would be preposterous to state that Reid should be fired before his deal runs out next season. But how can he keep his job if he ignores his best players on offense and remains the most stubborn play caller in the game continually trying to force fit a round peg in a square hole?



Reid has been brutally criticized for having two offensive coordinators this season and not adhering to adjusting game plans during the game. Instead his meddling attributes to run whatever play he thinks he can – despite obvious personnel and matchups deficiencies or advise from the two-headed monster he created with his offensive coordinators, will ultimately be his demise as the Chiefs head coach.



In summary, I’m upset and irritated after this loss and I’m probably taking this too hard. However, you invest so much as a fan only to see you put faith in a head coach that repeats the same mistakes time and time again that has plagued his entire head coaching career since he took over the Eagles back in 1999.



As fans, especially those that braved the frigid condition on Sunday, the Chiefs organization can’t ignore this indisputable fact, Reid continues to make the same in game mistakes punishing a loyal fan base – that pays a price – because Reid’s stripes did not change when he went from green to red four years ago.

KChiefs1 12-19-2016 10:08 PM

Andy's presser:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...id=11373923372






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GloryDayz 12-19-2016 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12630108)
Andy's presser:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...id=11373923372






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I'll never get that time back... Him being that OK with the loss is why I'm more concerned than I was before. He's simply out of touch. Way too calm!

KChiefs1 12-19-2016 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12630188)
I'll never get that time back... Him being that OK with the loss is why I'm more concerned than I was before. He's simply out of touch. Way too calm!



He sounds like Gary Pinkel after a loss.



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GloryDayz 12-19-2016 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12630198)
He sounds like Gary Pinkel after a loss.



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He's so full of coach-speak bullshit he should be pumped out like a Johnny-on-the-spot.

I'm sure he's just trying to get them to end pressers (because he has no answers, ever!), and he might be what ends pressers.

ChiefsFanatic 12-20-2016 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12628938)
Many here will love this story.

http://sportsspotlight.com/blog/chiefs-insider-121816/





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Although this article echos some of my thoughts I expressed in my thread, it is poorly written. He obviously doesn't understand, how to use, commas. And he makes wide general statements with no supporting facts.

I am fine with Reid bashing after his coaching performance on Sunday, but I have never cared for Athan, and his obvious lack of writing skill. It's either Head Coach Andy Reid, or it's the Chiefs head coach, Andy Reid. Not Head Coach, Andy Reid.

He said Reid would have to scramble to save his coaching legacy. As evident in my thread from Sunday, I am not an Andy Reid fan. But Reid will end his career ranked in the top 10 for coaching victories. He took the Eagles to 4 straight NFC Championship games, and coached in a Super Bowl. The only way for Athan to rescue his legacy, is to win a Pulitzer.

He actually said Sutton coached against the Titans like he was coaching against Montana's 49ers in their prime. What?

He did site specific offensive play calls, but one of them was questioning why Reid opted to call a pass play on third down, suggesting that a field goal was the proper call. Again, what? He didn't choose a pass play over a field goal. He called a play designed to give the QB options at the LOS, depending on coverage. Smith just made a terrible decision, and the ball was intercepted. If the pass had been incomplete, he would have kicked the field goal, as we had already been stopped once before on 4th and goal.

As for attributing some of the blame to Sutton, he didn't site any play that would demonstrate the lack of aggression he claims Sutton displayed.

If his "article" was just another post on CP, then his, use of commas and unsupported criticism wouldn't bother me.

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dannybcaitlyn 12-20-2016 04:19 AM

The lack of aggression by Sutton was spot on. Especially on the last series where we allowed the Titans to easily march down field for the go ahead to win field goal. Watch the same type of scenarios that Dallas and the Raider were in from last week. They went after the Qb relentless and came out with the win. We did that prevent/ bend but don't break bullshit. Marriota wasn't touched once.

GloryDayz 12-20-2016 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 12630313)
Although this article echos some of my thoughts I expressed in my thread, it is poorly written. He obviously doesn't understand, how to use, commas. And he makes wide general statements with no supporting facts.

I am fine with Reid bashing after his coaching performance on Sunday, but I have never cared for Athan, and his obvious lack of writing skill. It's either Head Coach Andy Reid, or it's the Chiefs head coach, Andy Reid. Not Head Coach, Andy Reid.

He said Reid would have to scramble to save his coaching legacy. As evident in my thread from Sunday, I am not an Andy Reid fan. But Reid will end his career ranked in the top 10 for coaching victories. He took the Eagles to 4 straight NFC Championship games, and coached in a Super Bowl. The only way for Athan to rescue his legacy, is to win a Pulitzer.

He actually said Sutton coached against the Titans like he was coaching against Montana's 49ers in their prime. What?

He did site specific offensive play calls, but one of them was questioning why Reid opted to call a pass play on third down, suggesting that a field goal was the proper call. Again, what? He didn't choose a pass play over a field goal. He called a play designed to give the QB options at the LOS, depending on coverage. Smith just made a terrible decision, and the ball was intercepted. If the pass had been incomplete, he would have kicked the field goal, as we had already been stopped once before on 4th and goal.

As for attributing some of the blame to Sutton, he didn't site any play that would demonstrate the lack of aggression he claims Sutton displayed.

If his "article" was just another post on CP, then his, use of commas and unsupported criticism wouldn't bother me.

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OACU (Over Active Comma Use) or not, the guy was spot-on - Reid is coaching AIDS on game day. Evenif he's a great Monday-Saturday coach, he's ass on Sundays. We should have higher standards for Andy coaching our team than this man's punctuation. To comment on his use of commas suggests some level of deflection. At best it should be left as an unspoken observation, at worst it should be a very subtle footnote.

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GloryDayz 12-20-2016 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 12630316)
The lack of aggression by Sutton was spot on. Especially on the last series where we allowed the Titans to easily march down field for the go ahead to win field goal. Watch the same type of scenarios that Dallas and the Raider were in from last week. They went after the Qb relentless and came out with the win. We did that prevent/ bend but don't break bullshit. Marriota wasn't touched once.

The Chiefs should beg to play on Tuesdays, they almost always figure-out on Mondays what they should have figured-out by the previous Saturday. Either that or they need to admit that they're not dynamic enough, mentally too slow, or unobservant enough to make in-game adjustments.

On the fourth-and-goal, when Alex saw the Titans stuffing the B-gap AGAIN, knowing that he didn't have Poe in to blow-open a hole, he should have called a timeout. There's no way any NFL player should think that a weak(er) O-line was going to muster the strength to give the RB a lane to run through. Add to it that the Observant QB (and coaching staff) would have seen that our RBs weren't winning the strength battle, and it's all the more reason to call a TO. And if his excuse was that he was sure the Titans were going to not stuff the gap and fall beck into coverage instead, well he guessed wrong.

And while we may all be mere armchair/Monday morning QBs, we didin't get stuffed, twice, at the one yard line after a dumb-ass chose not to dive for the pylon and/or stick the ball out in front of him. And we don't get paid millions to see these sorts of things - they do.

GloryDayz 01-15-2017 10:20 PM

And............................. Andy!

rabblerouser 01-15-2017 10:25 PM

Same as it ever was.

SuperBowl4 01-15-2017 10:47 PM

The west fumble at the end of the first half was a killer. Surprised he was allowed back on the field after that!

GloryDayz 01-15-2017 10:49 PM

There were a ton of mistakes. It's not like the team had an extra week off like the team they played. Wait...................

KChiefs1 01-15-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 12689124)
The west fumble at the end of the first half was a killer. Surprised he was allowed back on the field after that!



Marty wouldn't have let him.



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rabblerouser 01-15-2017 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12689171)
There were a ton of mistakes. It's not like the team had an extra week off like the team they played. Wait...................

ROFL

Reid is a ****ing joke. A stupid fat ****ing joke.

rabblerouser 01-15-2017 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12689339)
Marty wouldn't have let him.



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Nope. Marty would've had him riding pine.

SuperBowl4 01-15-2017 11:01 PM

Where was Knile Davis tonight? Did he even get on the field? So much better than West.

rabblerouser 01-15-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 12689379)
Where was Knile Davis tonight? Did he even get on the field? So much better than West.

Doesn't matter. Knile wouldn't have made any difference.

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 12:09 AM

Did they really go on a 7 minute drive in the 4th quarter.

Or am I imagining this shit?

That was shades of Andy vs the Pats in the Super Bowl. You know - down by two scores in the 4th and huddling up.

Andy Reid really does suck. He really is terrible.

GloryDayz 01-16-2017 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12690001)
Did they really go on a 7 minute drive in the 4th quarter.

Or am I imagining this shit?

That was shades of Andy vs the Pats in the Super Bowl. You know - down by two scores in the 4th and huddling up.

Andy Reid really does suck. He really is terrible.

It's all true.

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rabblerouser 01-17-2017 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12690295)
It's all true.

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Pittsburgh just kicked another field goal.

KChiefs1 01-18-2017 02:26 PM

Nick Athan:

As we’ve seen over the last week, there is a cosmic shift in coaching circles in the NFL. The days of elder statesmen on the sidelines are about to become extinct. In Kansas City, Head Coach Andy Reid, once again has proven with his latest playoff loss, he’s not the right fit for the Chiefs long term.



I’ll go on record right now. The Chiefs need to part ways with Andy Reid. His playoff loss Sunday Night, was neither surprising or unpredictable, at the hands of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They can flat out coach on that sideline, which is vastly different than what the Chiefs currently possess on their sidelines.



For Reid, who had two weeks to prepare to get his team ready to play, and trust his defensive coordinator, Bob Sutton would bail out his inadequacies as a play-caller and manager of this football team, once again caved under the inability to rise above his ego and arrogance that will never accept his faults as an offensive coordinator and head coach.



Kansas City lost a tough playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, 18-16. Yes, we can debate the holding call on Eric Fisher, that negated tying the game with just over two minutes to go, or Sutton’s reasoning for using Justin Houston in pass coverage eight times – two of them, covering Antonio Brown, which was both epic and idiotic within the game, that should cost, Bob Sutton any future employment in Kansas City.



Reid, has taken this Chiefs franchise as far as one man can from the 2-14 team nightmare he inherited four years ago, to this moment in time. With one year left on his contract, Chairman Clark Hunt, must consider following the latest NFL trend to hire young a head coach. Further, with General Manager, John Dorsey a free agent after the Super Bowl, perhaps more shake-up is needed.



It’s especially vital for the Chiefs make some coaching changes, because as we saw in plain sight Sunday night, Reid’s offensive stars, Jeremy Maclin, Travis Kelce, Eric Fisher, Tyreek Hill and Spencer Ware, were not ready to seize the moment that should have sent this team into the AFC title game. Under Reid and his so-called offensive genius, none of them had that prime-time mentality a head coach demands from himself first, and his players second.



Peter Diana / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Peter Diana / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Now, had the Chiefs beaten the Steelers Sunday night, I’d be on record stating, there was zero chance Kansas City would win that game next Sunday night against the Patriots, but that doesn’t mean they should have lost to the Steelers at Arrowhead.



For me, the 2016 season ended up being a wasted year for the entire Chiefs nation. Making the playoffs is great, and Reid deserves kudos for guiding Kansas City to the post season three of four years, yet that’s as far as he can take this franchise.



Reid, has tried to cover up his ego filled errors all season long, and did a good job by going 12-4 and winning the AFC West. Yet before the season began, he named two offensive coordinators, neither of which has any say in KC’s offense, and placed significant reliance in Defensive Coordinator, Bob Sutton, to keep scores low, while Reid botched the direction of his stumbling offense. Adding to the fuel, name one game the Chiefs offense played four quarters of solid football in a single game this season.



Sadly, I could rant until I’m blue in the face on the Reid conundrum, but I can’t see this organization having the guts to take a que from John Elway’s off-season approach. Rumor in Denver, Elway was so upset at missing the post season, he blew his entire coaching staff up, including nudging, Gary Kubiak, out the door for a younger model. These guys were teammates and Super Bowl champions together, but after one bad season, it was broom time in Denver.



Though I’m not high on Elway’s choice for Head Coach, Vance Joseph, the Broncos are already a better football team in 2017 than the Chiefs. I based that largely on the staff Denver has put together on offense by adding, Mike McCoy and Bill Musgrave, to run their fledgling offense.



Next season the Chiefs face a brutal road schedule including games at New England, NY Giants, NY Jets, Dallas Cowboys and the AFC West. Going 4-4 would be a magnificent achievement.



However, Reid’s inability to continue that Arrowhead magic that was a staple under Marty Schottenheimer and Dick Vermeil, by losing three games at home this season, just adds one more notch on his inability to seize the opportunities he’s been presented in Kansas City.



The Chiefs are a damn good football team, but Reid does not understand, that winning every snap of every game, builds a championship mentality. You run every play to succeed and you hold your staff accountable to do the same. There is zero accountability by the head coach on himself, so it’s insane to believe he can do the same with his staff.



Reid, lives in the Buddy world of NFL coaches and it cost him in the eyes of the Chiefs nation after Sunday’s playoff loss at Arrowhead The fans, the local media, and players in that locker room, see it as well. Further, even though coaches have faltered in practice and on the sidelines in four seasons under Reid, he’s not fired a single assistant coach.



As for Sutton, the man had his moments the last four seasons in Kansas City, but this team needs a younger defensive voice. Add that with the fact in 2017, the Chiefs could be without Eric Berry, Dontari Poe, Derrick Johnson and Tamba Hali.



On offense, don’t blame Chiefs Quarterback, Alex Smith for this latest post season failure by the Chiefs.. Had Travis Kelce not dropped a long pass that would have set the Chiefs up first and goal in the third quarter, perhaps it’s a win. Had Jeremy Maclin not run the post route instead of a fly pattern on the last drive, KC would have had five extra minutes of game time.



Had Eric Fisher simply spread his feet, used proper technique on his flagged holding call, that for all practical matters ended the Chiefs season, perhaps this column reads differently.



The bottom line is the Chiefs are a good football team, but under Reid, they will never be a championship team that can compete for Super Bowls. There is no longer any dispute Reid’s coaching style is prohibitive to winning in the post season.



Worse yet, most Chiefs fans are done with Reid as their head coach. To support him in the future, will be a tough sell for a fan base and it will reflect in ticket sales this off-season. The Chiefs fan base, despite Reid’s many coaching flaws, to make the changes in his game – that plagued him in Philadelphia. Instead, poor play calling, not using his players abilities within their skill set, and game clock management, continue to plague Reid.



For the future, Kansas City will be lucky to be 8-8 next year. Reid will certainly be back, so will Sutton and his powerless co-offensive coordinators, but this football team will enter 2017, behind the Oakland Raiders and Denver Broncos in the division pecking order.



The Kansas City Chiefs have not been to the Super Bowl since 1970 so you’d think someone smarter and richer than me, can’t see the obvious, Reid can win football games in the Fall and Winter, but not in January or February – when it’s fan base demand he does just that.



And that’s the only reason you grind out training camp, pre-season games and the regular season, to prepare yourself for a Super Bowl run. Reid talks about it but is clueless to see what it will take to get it done, because he can’t look within to see he’s the reason this franchise continues to lay an egg in the playoffs.



For this franchise to take on a new mantra, the Chiefs need a Championship coaching staff, one that could be centered with a young fiery leader unwilling to settle for anything less than the primary objective – win the DAMN Super Bowl. Because as we painfully watched Sunday Night, we know the old guard (Reid) simply does not work in Kansas City any longer.


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GloryDayz 01-18-2017 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12695359)
Nick Athan:

As we’ve seen over the last week, there is a cosmic shift in coaching circles in the NFL. The days of elder statesmen on the sidelines are about to become extinct. In Kansas City, Head Coach Andy Reid, once again has proven with his latest playoff loss, he’s not the right fit for the Chiefs long term.



I’ll go on record right now. The Chiefs need to part ways with Andy Reid. His playoff loss Sunday Night, was neither surprising or unpredictable, at the hands of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They can flat out coach on that sideline, which is vastly different than what the Chiefs currently possess on their sidelines.



For Reid, who had two weeks to prepare to get his team ready to play, and trust his defensive coordinator, Bob Sutton would bail out his inadequacies as a play-caller and manager of this football team, once again caved under the inability to rise above his ego and arrogance that will never accept his faults as an offensive coordinator and head coach.



Kansas City lost a tough playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, 18-16. Yes, we can debate the holding call on Eric Fisher, that negated tying the game with just over two minutes to go, or Sutton’s reasoning for using Justin Houston in pass coverage eight times – two of them, covering Antonio Brown, which was both epic and idiotic within the game, that should cost, Bob Sutton any future employment in Kansas City.



Reid, has taken this Chiefs franchise as far as one man can from the 2-14 team nightmare he inherited four years ago, to this moment in time. With one year left on his contract, Chairman Clark Hunt, must consider following the latest NFL trend to hire young a head coach. Further, with General Manager, John Dorsey a free agent after the Super Bowl, perhaps more shake-up is needed.



It’s especially vital for the Chiefs make some coaching changes, because as we saw in plain sight Sunday night, Reid’s offensive stars, Jeremy Maclin, Travis Kelce, Eric Fisher, Tyreek Hill and Spencer Ware, were not ready to seize the moment that should have sent this team into the AFC title game. Under Reid and his so-called offensive genius, none of them had that prime-time mentality a head coach demands from himself first, and his players second.



Peter Diana / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Peter Diana / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Now, had the Chiefs beaten the Steelers Sunday night, I’d be on record stating, there was zero chance Kansas City would win that game next Sunday night against the Patriots, but that doesn’t mean they should have lost to the Steelers at Arrowhead.



For me, the 2016 season ended up being a wasted year for the entire Chiefs nation. Making the playoffs is great, and Reid deserves kudos for guiding Kansas City to the post season three of four years, yet that’s as far as he can take this franchise.



Reid, has tried to cover up his ego filled errors all season long, and did a good job by going 12-4 and winning the AFC West. Yet before the season began, he named two offensive coordinators, neither of which has any say in KC’s offense, and placed significant reliance in Defensive Coordinator, Bob Sutton, to keep scores low, while Reid botched the direction of his stumbling offense. Adding to the fuel, name one game the Chiefs offense played four quarters of solid football in a single game this season.



Sadly, I could rant until I’m blue in the face on the Reid conundrum, but I can’t see this organization having the guts to take a que from John Elway’s off-season approach. Rumor in Denver, Elway was so upset at missing the post season, he blew his entire coaching staff up, including nudging, Gary Kubiak, out the door for a younger model. These guys were teammates and Super Bowl champions together, but after one bad season, it was broom time in Denver.



Though I’m not high on Elway’s choice for Head Coach, Vance Joseph, the Broncos are already a better football team in 2017 than the Chiefs. I based that largely on the staff Denver has put together on offense by adding, Mike McCoy and Bill Musgrave, to run their fledgling offense.



Next season the Chiefs face a brutal road schedule including games at New England, NY Giants, NY Jets, Dallas Cowboys and the AFC West. Going 4-4 would be a magnificent achievement.



However, Reid’s inability to continue that Arrowhead magic that was a staple under Marty Schottenheimer and Dick Vermeil, by losing three games at home this season, just adds one more notch on his inability to seize the opportunities he’s been presented in Kansas City.



The Chiefs are a damn good football team, but Reid does not understand, that winning every snap of every game, builds a championship mentality. You run every play to succeed and you hold your staff accountable to do the same. There is zero accountability by the head coach on himself, so it’s insane to believe he can do the same with his staff.



Reid, lives in the Buddy world of NFL coaches and it cost him in the eyes of the Chiefs nation after Sunday’s playoff loss at Arrowhead The fans, the local media, and players in that locker room, see it as well. Further, even though coaches have faltered in practice and on the sidelines in four seasons under Reid, he’s not fired a single assistant coach.



As for Sutton, the man had his moments the last four seasons in Kansas City, but this team needs a younger defensive voice. Add that with the fact in 2017, the Chiefs could be without Eric Berry, Dontari Poe, Derrick Johnson and Tamba Hali.



On offense, don’t blame Chiefs Quarterback, Alex Smith for this latest post season failure by the Chiefs.. Had Travis Kelce not dropped a long pass that would have set the Chiefs up first and goal in the third quarter, perhaps it’s a win. Had Jeremy Maclin not run the post route instead of a fly pattern on the last drive, KC would have had five extra minutes of game time.



Had Eric Fisher simply spread his feet, used proper technique on his flagged holding call, that for all practical matters ended the Chiefs season, perhaps this column reads differently.



The bottom line is the Chiefs are a good football team, but under Reid, they will never be a championship team that can compete for Super Bowls. There is no longer any dispute Reid’s coaching style is prohibitive to winning in the post season.



Worse yet, most Chiefs fans are done with Reid as their head coach. To support him in the future, will be a tough sell for a fan base and it will reflect in ticket sales this off-season. The Chiefs fan base, despite Reid’s many coaching flaws, to make the changes in his game – that plagued him in Philadelphia. Instead, poor play calling, not using his players abilities within their skill set, and game clock management, continue to plague Reid.



For the future, Kansas City will be lucky to be 8-8 next year. Reid will certainly be back, so will Sutton and his powerless co-offensive coordinators, but this football team will enter 2017, behind the Oakland Raiders and Denver Broncos in the division pecking order.



The Kansas City Chiefs have not been to the Super Bowl since 1970 so you’d think someone smarter and richer than me, can’t see the obvious, Reid can win football games in the Fall and Winter, but not in January or February – when it’s fan base demand he does just that.



And that’s the only reason you grind out training camp, pre-season games and the regular season, to prepare yourself for a Super Bowl run. Reid talks about it but is clueless to see what it will take to get it done, because he can’t look within to see he’s the reason this franchise continues to lay an egg in the playoffs.



For this franchise to take on a new mantra, the Chiefs need a Championship coaching staff, one that could be centered with a young fiery leader unwilling to settle for anything less than the primary objective – win the DAMN Super Bowl. Because as we painfully watched Sunday Night, we know the old guard (Reid) simply does not work in Kansas City any longer.


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Good post. I disagree with his release of Alex for blame Sunday because it fails to offer the rest of the story of how bad he is.

And I would have been 10000 times more brutal on the ****-face named Clark.

ptlyon 01-18-2017 02:42 PM

Edit - Nevermind. Found it.

http://sportsspotlight.com/blog/cate...sts/nickathan/

Mr. Laz 01-18-2017 02:49 PM

Andy Reid problems are still mostly OC related but since he refuses to be an HC-only it all has to be taken into account.

Mr. Laz 01-18-2017 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12695385)
Good post. I disagree with his release of Alex for blame Sunday because it fails to offer the rest of the story of how bad he is.

Here we go again, people acting like Alex Smith is the worse QB in the league.

QBs don't see open receivers EVERY ****ING game, even the great ones.
QBs mess up throws EVERY ****ING game, even the great ones.

Reid's playcalling is average at best and doesn't help Smith.

Alex Smith is a slightly-above-average starting NFL QB ... period. No more, no less. No matter how many little bitches try to make him anything else.

ptlyon 01-18-2017 02:57 PM

Wish I could be slightly better than average at my job and get paid $17 mil a year

Amnorix 01-18-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12630188)
I'll never get that time back... Him being that OK with the loss is why I'm more concerned than I was before. He's simply out of touch. Way too calm!


No press conference ever won a game.

Andy Reid has taken the Chiefs to the playoffs 3 years out of 4, when they made the playoffs 3 years out of like 15 before him. I understand the IMMENSE frustrating at failing to move on, etc., but to call him a shit coach is a laugh when you guys have seen guys like Herm Edwards in action.

splatbass 01-18-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12695359)
Nick Athan:

As we’ve seen over the last week, there is a cosmic shift in coaching circles in the NFL. The days of elder statesmen on the sidelines are about to become extinct. In Kansas City, Head Coach Andy Reid, once again has proven with his latest playoff loss, he’s not the right fit for the Chiefs long term.



I’ll go on record right now. The Chiefs need to part ways with Andy Reid. His playoff loss Sunday Night, was neither surprising or unpredictable, at the hands of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They can flat out coach on that sideline, which is vastly different than what the Chiefs currently possess on their sidelines.



For Reid, who had two weeks to prepare to get his team ready to play, and trust his defensive coordinator, Bob Sutton would bail out his inadequacies as a play-caller and manager of this football team, once again caved under the inability to rise above his ego and arrogance that will never accept his faults as an offensive coordinator and head coach.



Kansas City lost a tough playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, 18-16. Yes, we can debate the holding call on Eric Fisher, that negated tying the game with just over two minutes to go, or Sutton’s reasoning for using Justin Houston in pass coverage eight times – two of them, covering Antonio Brown, which was both epic and idiotic within the game, that should cost, Bob Sutton any future employment in Kansas City.



Reid, has taken this Chiefs franchise as far as one man can from the 2-14 team nightmare he inherited four years ago, to this moment in time. With one year left on his contract, Chairman Clark Hunt, must consider following the latest NFL trend to hire young a head coach. Further, with General Manager, John Dorsey a free agent after the Super Bowl, perhaps more shake-up is needed.



It’s especially vital for the Chiefs make some coaching changes, because as we saw in plain sight Sunday night, Reid’s offensive stars, Jeremy Maclin, Travis Kelce, Eric Fisher, Tyreek Hill and Spencer Ware, were not ready to seize the moment that should have sent this team into the AFC title game. Under Reid and his so-called offensive genius, none of them had that prime-time mentality a head coach demands from himself first, and his players second.



Peter Diana / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Peter Diana / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Now, had the Chiefs beaten the Steelers Sunday night, I’d be on record stating, there was zero chance Kansas City would win that game next Sunday night against the Patriots, but that doesn’t mean they should have lost to the Steelers at Arrowhead.



For me, the 2016 season ended up being a wasted year for the entire Chiefs nation. Making the playoffs is great, and Reid deserves kudos for guiding Kansas City to the post season three of four years, yet that’s as far as he can take this franchise.



Reid, has tried to cover up his ego filled errors all season long, and did a good job by going 12-4 and winning the AFC West. Yet before the season began, he named two offensive coordinators, neither of which has any say in KC’s offense, and placed significant reliance in Defensive Coordinator, Bob Sutton, to keep scores low, while Reid botched the direction of his stumbling offense. Adding to the fuel, name one game the Chiefs offense played four quarters of solid football in a single game this season.



Sadly, I could rant until I’m blue in the face on the Reid conundrum, but I can’t see this organization having the guts to take a que from John Elway’s off-season approach. Rumor in Denver, Elway was so upset at missing the post season, he blew his entire coaching staff up, including nudging, Gary Kubiak, out the door for a younger model. These guys were teammates and Super Bowl champions together, but after one bad season, it was broom time in Denver.



Though I’m not high on Elway’s choice for Head Coach, Vance Joseph, the Broncos are already a better football team in 2017 than the Chiefs. I based that largely on the staff Denver has put together on offense by adding, Mike McCoy and Bill Musgrave, to run their fledgling offense.



Next season the Chiefs face a brutal road schedule including games at New England, NY Giants, NY Jets, Dallas Cowboys and the AFC West. Going 4-4 would be a magnificent achievement.



However, Reid’s inability to continue that Arrowhead magic that was a staple under Marty Schottenheimer and Dick Vermeil, by losing three games at home this season, just adds one more notch on his inability to seize the opportunities he’s been presented in Kansas City.



The Chiefs are a damn good football team, but Reid does not understand, that winning every snap of every game, builds a championship mentality. You run every play to succeed and you hold your staff accountable to do the same. There is zero accountability by the head coach on himself, so it’s insane to believe he can do the same with his staff.



Reid, lives in the Buddy world of NFL coaches and it cost him in the eyes of the Chiefs nation after Sunday’s playoff loss at Arrowhead The fans, the local media, and players in that locker room, see it as well. Further, even though coaches have faltered in practice and on the sidelines in four seasons under Reid, he’s not fired a single assistant coach.



As for Sutton, the man had his moments the last four seasons in Kansas City, but this team needs a younger defensive voice. Add that with the fact in 2017, the Chiefs could be without Eric Berry, Dontari Poe, Derrick Johnson and Tamba Hali.



On offense, don’t blame Chiefs Quarterback, Alex Smith for this latest post season failure by the Chiefs.. Had Travis Kelce not dropped a long pass that would have set the Chiefs up first and goal in the third quarter, perhaps it’s a win. Had Jeremy Maclin not run the post route instead of a fly pattern on the last drive, KC would have had five extra minutes of game time.



Had Eric Fisher simply spread his feet, used proper technique on his flagged holding call, that for all practical matters ended the Chiefs season, perhaps this column reads differently.



The bottom line is the Chiefs are a good football team, but under Reid, they will never be a championship team that can compete for Super Bowls. There is no longer any dispute Reid’s coaching style is prohibitive to winning in the post season.



Worse yet, most Chiefs fans are done with Reid as their head coach. To support him in the future, will be a tough sell for a fan base and it will reflect in ticket sales this off-season. The Chiefs fan base, despite Reid’s many coaching flaws, to make the changes in his game – that plagued him in Philadelphia. Instead, poor play calling, not using his players abilities within their skill set, and game clock management, continue to plague Reid.



For the future, Kansas City will be lucky to be 8-8 next year. Reid will certainly be back, so will Sutton and his powerless co-offensive coordinators, but this football team will enter 2017, behind the Oakland Raiders and Denver Broncos in the division pecking order.



The Kansas City Chiefs have not been to the Super Bowl since 1970 so you’d think someone smarter and richer than me, can’t see the obvious, Reid can win football games in the Fall and Winter, but not in January or February – when it’s fan base demand he does just that.



And that’s the only reason you grind out training camp, pre-season games and the regular season, to prepare yourself for a Super Bowl run. Reid talks about it but is clueless to see what it will take to get it done, because he can’t look within to see he’s the reason this franchise continues to lay an egg in the playoffs.



For this franchise to take on a new mantra, the Chiefs need a Championship coaching staff, one that could be centered with a young fiery leader unwilling to settle for anything less than the primary objective – win the DAMN Super Bowl. Because as we painfully watched Sunday Night, we know the old guard (Reid) simply does not work in Kansas City any longer.


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Nick ****ing Athan? That guy knows less about football than 99% of the people here.

GloryDayz 01-18-2017 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12695402)
Here we go again, people acting like Alex Smith is the worse QB in the league.

QBs don't see open receivers EVERY ****ING game, even the great ones.
QBs mess up throws EVERY ****ING game, even the great ones.

Reid's playcalling is average at best and doesn't help Smith.

Alex Smith is a slightly-above-average starting NFL QB ... period. No more, no less. No matter how many little bitches try to make him anything else.

I'm on record as saying Alex is an average QB, so I don't think he's the worst.

As for missing wide open receivers, he does it with the efficiency of a fine Swiss watch.

As for Andy, his play calling is total ass.

Mr. Laz 01-18-2017 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 12695408)
Wish I could be slightly better than average at my job and get paid $17 mil a year

Actually, Smith only made 14 million this year, 17 million is his cap number not salary

Look around the NFL and you will see that 17 million is pretty much the going rate for a slightly above average starting QB.

Dalton, Kaep and RGIII are the only starters that make less than Alex Smith.
(not counting the starters on their rookie deals)

Mr. Laz 01-18-2017 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12695416)
I'm on record as saying Alex is an average QB, so I don't think he's the worst.

As for missing wide open receivers, he does it with the efficiency of a fine Swiss watch.

As for Andy, his play calling is total ass.

fair enough, it just seems like your response had a tone that indicated Smith was less than that.

If people want to get mad, get mad at Andy Reid for wanting a QB like Alex Smith. Reid either doesn't think that Alex is above-average or he's ok with having a QB like that.

The Chiefs haven't been looking for a replacement, they've just been randomly 'taking shots' at picking up a QB. Evidently, Reid doesn't think QB is a problem.

Reid is the problem, not Smith ... he should have never been considered the long term solution anyway.

RunKC 01-18-2017 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12695418)
Actually, Smith only made 14 million this year, 17 million is his cap number not salary

Look around the NFL and you will see that 17 million is pretty much the going rate for a slightly above average starting QB.

Dalton, Kaep and RGIII are the only starters that make less than Alex Smith.
(not counting the starters on their rookie deals)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12695424)
fair enough, it just seems like your response had a tone that indicated Smith was less than that.

If people want to get mad, get mad at Andy Reid for wanting a QB like Alex Smith. Reid either doesn't think that Alex is above-average or he's ok with having a QB like that.

The Chiefs haven't been looking for a replacement, they've just been randomly 'taking shots' at picking up a QB. Evidently, Reid doesn't think QB is a problem.

Reid is the problem, not Smith ... he should have never been considered the long term solution anyway.

Alex was 100% the right move in 2013. We needed to build the roster up to be able to support the next QB.
Passing on Carr was awful, but that's done. At least we know they wanted Carr.

It's not a matter of if, but when. I have full confidence in John Dorsey drafting a QB. It's Andy Reid's pride as well as his love for Alex that worries me.

This offseason will tell us a lot about Alex. There were rumors that the Chiefs wanted to see what Alex would do in the second half of the year. We'll find out in a few months how they really feel.

Reerun_KC 01-18-2017 03:19 PM

What's really surprising is the fact that a rehashed coach has the same results and people are perplexed at those results.

How can anyone be this stupid?

Reerun_KC 01-18-2017 03:21 PM

Just because this fat **** dons red and gold doesn't mean he is cured from his rehashed stupidity...

Reid failed because Reid and chiefs colors won't fix that regardless how many homers say it will...

Mr. Laz 01-18-2017 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12695435)
Alex was 100% the right move in 2013. We needed to build the roster up to be able to support the next QB.
Passing on Carr was awful, but that's done. At least we know they wanted Carr.

It's not a matter of if, but when. I have full confidence in John Dorsey drafting a QB. It's Andy Reid's pride as well as his love for Alex that worries me.

This offseason will tell us a lot about Alex. There were rumors that the Chiefs wanted to see what Alex would do in the second half of the year. We'll find out in a few months how they really feel.

I think we would already have a replacement for Alex Smith if it was up to Dorsey.

Andy Reid wanted to trade for Smith and he is the one who wants to keep him.

raybec 4 01-18-2017 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12695411)
Nick ****ing Athan? That guy knows less about football than 99% of the people here.

Bingo, and him saying that he knows what "most" Chiefs fans want is just silly. He knows what the loudest ones want but I for one don't give a shit what the loudest ones want. It's like listening to an emotional 14 year old girls and thinking you understand most women.

BlackHelicopters 01-18-2017 03:48 PM

KaDos to Reid

Amnorix 01-18-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12695443)
What's really surprising is the fact that a rehashed coach has the same results and people are perplexed at those results.

How can anyone be this stupid?


Like Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll, you mean? Or Gary Kubiak? Tom Coughlin? Tony Dungy? Jon Gruden? All failed to win a SB with their first team but won one with their second, within the last 15 years.

Reerun_KC 01-18-2017 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12695537)
Like Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll, you mean? Or Gary Kubiak? Tom Coughlin? Tony Dungy? Jon Gruden? All failed to win a SB with their first team but won one with their second, within the last 15 years.

Or like Andy Reid?

Reerun_KC 01-18-2017 04:18 PM

Reid won't win a Superbowl in KC. ROFL. Won't happen.

GloryDayz 01-18-2017 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12695537)
Like Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll, you mean? Or Gary Kubiak? Tom Coughlin? Tony Dungy? Jon Gruden? All failed to win a SB with their first team but won one with their second, within the last 15 years.

Did you just somehow put Andy in the same category as BB.

THAT'S CRAZY!

Rooster 01-18-2017 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12695544)
Reid won't win a Superbowl in KC. ROFL. Won't happen.

If he does you must give him KaDo's.

Amnorix 01-18-2017 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12695549)
Did you just somehow put Andy in the same category as BB.

THAT'S CRAZY!


Nobody is in BB's league, IMHO, in the modern NFL. I just listed a bunch of guys that didn't win SBs with their first team, but did with their second, in response to a comment that retreads are apparently doomed to fail. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary. BB is just one example.

BB IMHO is the GOAT, but I'm just a LITTLE biased. :D

Meatloaf 01-18-2017 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 12695557)
If he does you must give him KaDo's.

Nicely done, Rooster!

GloryDayz 01-18-2017 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12695561)
Nobody is in BB's league, IMHO, in the modern NFL. I just listed a bunch of guys that didn't win SBs with their first team, but did with their second, in response to a comment that retreads are apparently doomed to fail. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary. BB is just one example.

BB IMHO is the GOAT, but I'm just a LITTLE biased. :D

Our coward owner will never get a goat to come coach for him... As you can tell, he's kind of a pussy.

Mr. Laz 01-18-2017 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 12695557)
If he does you must give him KaDo's.

and Escalades

Meatloaf 01-18-2017 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12695590)
and Escalades

Well played, Mr Laz!!!

Reerun_KC 01-18-2017 06:02 PM

ROFL

New World Order 01-18-2017 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12695561)
Nobody is in BB's league, IMHO, in the modern NFL. I just listed a bunch of guys that didn't win SBs with their first team, but did with their second, in response to a comment that retreads are apparently doomed to fail. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary. BB is just one example.

BB IMHO is the GOAT, but I'm just a LITTLE biased. :D


After multiple fines and suspensions, no one can cheat like him.

I'll give you that.

splatbass 01-18-2017 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12695741)
After multiple fines and suspensions, no one can cheat like him.

GCOAT. Greatest cheater of all time.

NJChiefsFan 01-18-2017 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooster (Post 12695557)
If he does you must give him KaDo's.

I didn't open that thread yet but I'm glad this joke already exists.

rabblerouser 01-19-2017 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12695416)
I'm on record as saying Alex is an average QB, so I don't think he's the worst.

As for missing wide open receivers, he does it with the efficiency of a fine Swiss watch.

As for Andy, his play calling is total ass.

Andy's play calling AND game management suck total ass.

GloryDayz 01-19-2017 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12696147)
Andy's play calling AND game management suck total ass.

The Hunt/Andy ass-lickers will tell you you're wrong. They need you to be wrong!!!

Pasta Little Brioni 01-19-2017 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12695741)
After multiple fines and suspensions, no one can cheat like him.

I'll give you that.

Poor fellas feelins are hurt now ROFL

Hammock Parties 01-25-2017 09:28 PM

COACH OF THE YEAR!

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...m1vx9gbh1mbpk5

Quote:

Andy Reid is back on top of the NFL coaching heap for the first time in 14 seasons. Reid, in a close race over several strong contenders, was voted Sporting News Coach of the Year for his work with the Chiefs in 2016.

Reid is the sixth three-time winner of SN's award, which has been handed out since 1947. He joins Mike Smith, Joe Gibbs, Chuck Knox, Don Shula and Paul Brown.
Reid also follows Knox (Rams, Seahawks) and Shula (Colts, Dolphins) in winning with multiple teams.

Although Kansas City had gone 31-17 in Reid's first three seasons, making the playoffs twice as a wild card, he got his team to take it up a notch in 2016 with a 12-4 record and its first AFC West division title since 2010. Reid won Coach of the Year in Philadelphia twice, but the last came in '02.

Jason Garrett (Cowboys), Jack Del Rio (Raiders) and Dan Quinn (Falcons) got several votes for leading turnaround playoff seasons. Bill Belichick came close to breaking his nine-year drought and becoming a three-time winner with the Patriots, but ultimately, Reid got the most respect from a panel of his peers.

GloryDayz 01-25-2017 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12709367)

ROFL

splatbass 01-25-2017 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12709385)
ROFL

He took a team with significant injuries to a 12-4 season and division win. He deserves it.

TribalElder 01-25-2017 10:39 PM

What Del Rio did with the raiders was more impressive

Without the broken leg they might still be playing and we likely don't win the division

But enjoy that back page award, well deserved

rabblerouser 01-26-2017 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12695393)
Andy Reid problems are still mostly OC related but since he refuses to be an HC-only it all has to be taken into account.

Andy Reid's problem is Andy Reid.

The QB doesn't matter. Wouldn't matter if he had Aaron ****ing Rodgers if Rodgers is throwing bubble screens at the sideline.

rabblerouser 01-26-2017 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12709430)
He took a team with significant injuries to a 12-4 season and division win. He deserves it.

How many players did the Packers have on IR during the year they won their most recent SB?

Andy Reid SUCKS. This is a championship defense, marred by his terrible offense and terrible in game decisions.

Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach. The only award that will convince me otherwise is the ****ing Super Bowl trophy.

Marcellus 01-26-2017 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12709760)
How many players did the Packers have on IR during the year they won their most recent SB?

Andy Reid SUCKS. This is a championship defense, marred by his terrible offense and terrible in game decisions.

Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach. The only award that will convince me otherwise is the ****ing Super Bowl trophy.

A Championship defense that gave up 170 yards rushing in a playoff game?

Thats interesting.

GloryDayz 01-26-2017 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12709759)
Andy Reid's problem is Andy Reid.

The QB doesn't matter. Wouldn't matter if he had Aaron ****ing Rodgers if Rodgers is throwing bubble screens at the sideline.

I agree with most of your assessment, well actually a could agree with all of it, but Andy doesn't make Alex any less of a blind reerun. So I'll counter with, "If you put Alex Smith in Green Bay or New England, those teams suck."

And the worst part is ****-face loser Hunt won't ever force the changes that might prove either of us as right or wrong...

rabblerouser 01-26-2017 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12709820)
I agree with most of your assessment, well actually a could agree with all of it, but Andy doesn't make Alex any less of a blind reerun. So I'll counter with, "If you put Alex Smith in Green Bay or New England, those teams suck."

And the worst part is ****-face loser Hunt won't ever force the changes that might prove either of us as right or wrong...

Those teams suck anyway. Green Bay got TORCHED by Atlanta.

Truth is, Alex Smith would win a Super Bowl in GB with McCarthy before he'll win one in KC with Reid. Same with Belichick - Belichick would win a SB with Smith before Reid would win one with Brady.

I firmly believe that. Andy Reid and his stupid playcalling and lack of situational awareness...


And yeah Hunt will never change.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12709789)
A Championship defense that gave up 170 yards rushing in a playoff game?

Thats interesting.

How many TDs did Pittsburgh score? How many points?

You're telling me that you're an "offensive genius" and you can't score 21 points at home?

Ouch. I'd say the defense did GREAT, especially that stretch where they were basically on the field the entire 2nd quarter due to offensive ineptitude...

170 yds rushing with 0 TDs and less than 20 points at home?

Yes, please.

Marcellus 01-26-2017 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12709828)
Those teams suck anyway. Green Bay got TORCHED by Atlanta.

Truth is, Alex Smith would win a Super Bowl in GB with McCarthy before he'll win one in KC with Reid. Same with Belichick - Belichick would win a SB with Smith before Reid would win one with Brady.

I firmly believe that. Andy Reid and his stupid playcalling and lack of situational awareness...


And yeah Hunt will never change.



How many TDs did Pittsburgh score? How many points?

You're telling me that you're an "offensive genius" and you can't score 21 points at home?

Ouch. I'd say the defense did GREAT, especially that stretch where they were basically on the field the entire 2nd quarter due to offensive ineptitude...

170 yds rushing with 0 TDs and less than 20 points at home?

Yes, please.

One of the reasons they were on the field was they couldn't stop the run.

I am not going to sit here and argue that the defense lost the game but there are no Championship defenses that give up 170 yards of rushing in the playoffs. Period.

Bell averaged what 7 yards a carry? The only reason we didn't get raped even worse was they didn't try to run the ball inside the 20's.

And Reid's game plan had wide open receivers multiple times for TD's.

Reid didn't game plan for dropped passes and failure to hit wide open guys. To attempt to put the blame on this loss on Reid's game plan is so beyond stupid its incredible.

rabblerouser 01-26-2017 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12709833)
One of the reasons they were on the field was they couldn't stop the run.

I am not going to sit here and argue that the defense lost the game but there are no Championship defenses that give up 170 yards of rushing in the playoffs. Period.

Bell averaged what 7 yards a carry? The only reason we didn't get raped even worse was they didn't try to run the ball inside the 20's.

And Reid's game plan had wide open receivers multiple times for TD's.

Reid didn't game plan for dropped passes and failure to hit wide open guys. To attempt to put the blame on this loss on Reid's game plan is so beyond stupid its incredible.

So the defense not stopping the run caused those 3 and outs, 5 and outs, interception and fumble? Wow...news to me.

The whole "7 minute offense when needing 2 scores in the 4th" is classic Andy Reid. And it's ****ing indefensible.

splatbass 01-26-2017 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12709760)

Andy Reid SUCKS.

ROFL This is absurd. Andy Reid is one of the best coaches in the NFL, and is widely respected in the league. You don't make the top 10 in wins by a HC because you suck. You don't go 18 years with only 4 losing seasons because you suck.

splatbass 01-26-2017 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12709820)

And the worst part is ****-face loser Hunt won't ever force the changes that might prove either of us as right or wrong...

You should save this sentence somewhere so you can reuse it every time we have a new HC and QB, because it doesn't matter who we have you will always feel this way. The truth (not that you care) is that Clark Hunt has done a great job with this team and has never been afraid to make changes. He make not do exactly what you want (because you don't know shit about football), but he has shown he will do what needs to be done and spend the money that needs to be spent.

splatbass 01-26-2017 09:04 AM

Does anyone else think it is odd that a guy who believes that the NFL is rigged and the outcomes predetermined like professional wrestling is so concerned about the HC? Does Rabble not realize that if the league is fixed as he thinks then the HC makes no difference at all?

Baby Lee 01-26-2017 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12709887)
Does anyone else think it is odd that a guy who believes that the NFL is rigged and the outcomes predetermined like professional wrestling is so concerned about the HC? Does Rabble not realize that if the league is fixed as he thinks then the HC makes no difference at all?

Sparked a modicum of interest when the dichotomy raised its head years ago. Now it's 'rabble gonna rabble.'

Hoover 01-26-2017 09:25 AM

Chiefs' Andy Reid voted Sporting News Coach of the Year for third time

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...m1vx9gbh1mbpk5

Andy Reid is back on top of the NFL coaching heap for the first time in 14 seasons. Reid, in a close race over several strong contenders, was voted Sporting News Coach of the Year for his work with the Chiefs in 2016.

Reid is the sixth three-time winner of SN's award, which has been handed out since 1947. He joins Mike Smith, Joe Gibbs, Chuck Knox, Don Shula and Paul Brown. Reid also follows Knox (Rams, Seahawks) and Shula (Colts, Dolphins) in winning with multiple teams.


Although Kansas City had gone 31-17 in Reid's first three seasons, making the playoffs twice as a wild card, he got his team to take it up a notch in 2016 with a 12-4 record and its first AFC West division title since 2010. Reid won Coach of the Year in Philadelphia twice, but the last came in '02.

Jason Garrett (Cowboys), Jack Del Rio (Raiders) and Dan Quinn (Falcons) got several votes for leading turnaround playoff seasons. Bill Belichick came close to breaking his nine-year drought and becoming a three-time winner with the Patriots, but ultimately, Reid got the most respect from a panel of his peers.

There are few nicer guys in the NFL than Reid. Those who focus too much on him being "too conservative" discount how his steady style is the reason the Chiefs have quickly developed into a consistent winner under him.

Consider that Kansas City had strong competition from both Oakland and Denver in the West, and it swept both teams to take the division. Although the season ended in a home playoff loss to Pittsburgh in the divisional round, over the past two years, Reid's Chiefs have won 23 of their past 28 games.

The Chiefs had to deal with some key injuries on both sides of the ball, including Jamaal Charles, Jeremy Maclin, Justin Houston and Derrick Johnson. They had to lean on more younger players such as rookies Tyreek Hill and Chris Jones to improve on their 2015 record. Reid also had to do all that after seeing his offensive coordinator, Doug Pederson, leave to take the Eagles job he once had.

Kansas City was a Reid team through and through in '16, with stability and strong production from offense, defense and special teams. It's a compliment to put him in the same breath as Chiefs coaching great Marty Schottenheimer, not a detriment.

Although Garrett, Del Rio, Quinn and Belichick could boast great seasons, Reid had long deserved another one for his career resurgence in Kansas City. As he turns only 59 in March, Reid has plenty of time to deliver a few bigger wins for the Chiefs.

crayzkirk 01-26-2017 10:16 AM

Participation trophies suck.

The comparison to Marty is a good one; both had a thing for cast off 49ers quarterbacks.

WooHoo! The Chiefs won the division because the Carr got hurt.

Chiefs, the shampoo of losers. Lather, rinse and repeat.

rabblerouser 01-26-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12709924)
Chiefs' Andy Reid voted Sporting News Coach of the Year for third time

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...m1vx9gbh1mbpk5

Andy Reid is back on top of the NFL coaching heap for the first time in 14 seasons. Reid, in a close race over several strong contenders, was voted Sporting News Coach of the Year for his work with the Chiefs in 2016.

Reid is the sixth three-time winner of SN's award, which has been handed out since 1947. He joins Mike Smith, Joe Gibbs, Chuck Knox, Don Shula and Paul Brown. Reid also follows Knox (Rams, Seahawks) and Shula (Colts, Dolphins) in winning with multiple teams.


Although Kansas City had gone 31-17 in Reid's first three seasons, making the playoffs twice as a wild card, he got his team to take it up a notch in 2016 with a 12-4 record and its first AFC West division title since 2010. Reid won Coach of the Year in Philadelphia twice, but the last came in '02.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ****ing one and done in the playoffs, nothing's changed in 20 years...Same as it ever was.

Same as it ever was.


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