Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16149533)

He just brought a level of consistent aggression that we simply didn't have. His approached the game with the attitude Clark was sold as having.

He went out there looking to make his opponents life difficult every single snap. Even when he was taken out of a play, he made sure to make the guy across from him work for it.

He just looked like a miserable mother****er to be matched up against. He was like the defensive version of Trey Smith. Smith didn't win every rep, but he made you feel it even when he lost. And if he lost, it was because you beat him and not because he just jaked the play.

Now perhaps additional exposure would make it different for him, but that's such a prideful guy that I just can't see him being a player that takes plays, drives, quarters....even games off. He may run out of gas out there, but he won't pre-emptively pull the chute.

We have far too many veteran defensive players, many of whom were highly paid, who you cannot say that about.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16149870)

I have this feeling that if Johnson or Karlaftis fall to the upper 20's Veach is going to send a 3rd someone's way and move up. 23 to Arizona seems like a destination spot that makes some sense. A 3rd or equivalent has gotten teams from 30 as high as 21 in the past but I'm not so certain Belichek is the one to do it without trying to fleece more.

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16171449)

"J Williams averaged 19.9 yards on his 79 catches last season and had 15 touchdowns."

Would be amazing in KC.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16171453)

Maybe in a couple of years. He's going to miss the offseason at the very least.

We need immediate impact from our high picks, like we got last year.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16171468)

Really starting to feel that Boye Mafe will be the consensus best EDGE available when we pick.

The question is, are we willing to spend a 1st on a 23 year old that will be 24 in November?

I’ve been all for it for the last couple weeks, but the age issue was only recently brought to my attention.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16167381)

Added:

Boye Mafe, EDGE, Minnesota

DeMarvin Leal, DE/DT, Texas A&M


Dropped:

Jermaine Johnson, EDGE, FSU (won’t be there)


Trent McDuffie, CB, Washington (won’t be there)


Perrion Winfrey, DE/DT, Oklahoma (not enough 1st round buzz)

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16171462)

Here we go again.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16172326)

You guys thinking taking Williams at 30 would be a mistake is hilarious.

He’s a likely top 10 pick without the injury and would help us win playoff games at a cheap rate the next 5 years. He or London would provide this offense with as much or more impact than almost anyone in this draft.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16172378)

It's about immediate return on a 1st round pick. You're getting none if you take Williams. There are also zero guarantees he's the same player when he returns. He also best fits playing flanker, which Hill already plays. It's mostly a sign you're planning for life after Hill, not in conjunction with. Many of us in the "other camp" find it could be a rather big mistake to draft him and if that comes to fruition it won't be hilarious.

London is a completely different story. He's going to be available this year and better fits the split-end position the Chiefs actually have a need at.