Actually, Marty took some accountability after the 97 loss. I would have preferred he just start Gannon instead and then win or lose, at least we would KNOW we had the best team on the field.

Yeah ... we haven't made the playoffs once in the last 5 years.

Right.

FAX

What other AVAILABLE QB post-Smith could have done this?

I tried to find an article to link it but couldn't. Anyway it was analysis of Andy Reid's timeout usage this season.

Basically it said when the CHiefs have called an offensive timeout this season which was the vast majority of their timeout usage, the next play resulted in a 1st down or score something like 81% of the time. Far and away the best in the league.

Edit: Found the link

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...d-theres-proof

Edit:link was broken, fixed now

Encouraging. Now, what is the third down conversion rate for the regular season 2018 vs 2017?

Perhaps I misunderstood the intent of your post, or you misunderstood mine, Mr. Sweet Daddy Hate. Either way, it appears we're talking past each other.

Just to clarify ... Wally has done a masterful job of getting this team into the playoffs since he arrived. I don't believe that's up for debate at this point. Could AS11 have gotten us the #1 seed? I highly doubt it. But to say that AS11 couldn't have gotten this team into the playoffs is reverse prognostication at its most unconvincing since Wally's history with AS11 disagrees.

That was my point ... if I remember it correctly.

FAX

I think this is more Mahomes than Reid, because in the past we would call a timeout then shit the bed right away.

No, Mr. Marcellus is correct. I think it might have been a PFF or Bleacher or Pro Football Talk article (I don't recall). I read it and it was a nice analysis that debunked the myth that Wally's usage of timeouts speaks to "poor time management".

I wish I could find the article. It was well researched (and I assume it that research was accurate).

FAX

Two points in my post:

1) No other available QB option could have worked this team to the #1 seed post Smith.

2) Without Mahomes, several games that were contests to the end would have been lost, and there would have been no chance whatsoever in those high-scoring shootouts, even though we lost by one or two points. The defense had degenerated THAT badly. And honestly, this team would have had to scratch and claw for a wild card in 2018 were Smith still here IMO.

Absolutely.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...d-theres-proof

Here you go FAX, and the fact that McCarthy was one of the worst at wasting timeouts kind of deflates the idea Reid's success was all Mahomes.

Thats like saying if Vance Joseph coached Mahomes he would be just as good as he is now.

Look at the head coaches being hired this year. Laugh. Be happy we have Reid.

How in god's name do you tie McCarthy to Mahomes?

And if Vance Joseph coached Mahomes, Mahomes would still be Mahomes. Would he come blasting out of the gate and set TD records and all of the other fireworks in his first year as a starter? Probably not. But not even an idiot like Joseph or a drunkard like Elway could keep PMII from becoming what he was obviously destined to be.

PMII takes Lions, Bears, and Bengals to Super Bowls. PMII takes Falcons to dynasties. PMII is the goddamned zoo keeper and Beastmaster all in one, son. You just be grateful he landed HERE. :)

No doubt. MASSIVE bag o' dicks this year except Arians, I guess.

Well if that's true I blame battered fan syndrome. I can remember a lot of CUTE plays that backfired after timeouts maybe because they stick out.

If we lose tomorrow, Reid will have no accomplishments over any of those new coaches.