He's likely an upgrade. Maybe not to top 5 defense type of upgrade, but still.

They’ve got some good offensive weapons, a middle of the pack D should easily get them into the playoffs.

Well when we had dog crap, just about anything is an upgrade.

Raiders gonna Raider.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jon Gruden is the only HC in the NFL that has missed the playoffs in each of the last 3 years and hasn&#39;t been fired <a href="https://t.co/2K1nvXdpxg">pic.twitter.com/2K1nvXdpxg</a></p>&mdash; Pro Sports Outlook (@PSO_Sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/PSO_Sports/status/1349388486688690176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Before Gruden, Jack Del Rio was given 3 years and went 25-23, making the playoffs once. Gruden after 3 years is 19-29, no playoffs.

He just wants to win! ROFL

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That picture! ROFL

I asking myself what I would look like in a picture if I was making $100 million for being mediocre lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Entering 4th Yr of Jon Gruden as <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> Czar. Best players were ALL acquired by previous GM Reggie McKenzie.<br><br>You won’t find a team worst in Free Agency. Abject Failures under Jon.<br><br>Drafting has been subpar.<br><br>How to give away Khalil Mack, Amari Cooper and get shit back.</p>&mdash; Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/1357454683611291653?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Didn't they draft Waller, Ruggs and Jacobs? At worst, we're talking two A+s and an A-.

Left Tackle Miller looks great, DE Maxx Crosby had a 10 sack rookie season, and Mullen has been a decent DB. Not every team hits on all their drafts.

Raiders have an up and comer TE Foster Moreau, Hunter Renfrow is nicknamed 3rd and Renfrow, and Clelin Ferrell has been OK but was drafted to high.

All these players were drafted by Gruden. I count 5 players who were on the roster the day Gruden was hired.

Raiders played many rookies this year without a training camp and they lack depth. They have issues but still went 8-8 while having a top 10 offense. Their defense was historically bad.

Bottom line is Gruden hasn’t gotten it done and is looking average. Chad Forbes is a hater.

Gruden is shit. That team is no better than before him. Andy turned us around in one ****ing year. Gruden has done nothing.

Yeah, I wasn't actually sure who they drafted. Don't really track Raiders drafts. Forgot about Crosby completely. He may or may not turn out to be legit, but he had a good rookie year for sure.

They need help on D, and ultimately they have to find an upgrade for Carr. At that point, we'll see if Gruden is good enough or not.

No, Waller was a FA and had been in the NFL for a few years.

Ruggs is an A+ or A- how exactly? He did absolutely nothing.

Jacobs was a solid pick, but he still hasn’t proven that he can handle a huge workload for a full season.

Well, except that they did beat KC and scored enough to beat us again, if not for Mahomes. And expecting any coach to be Andy is kind of unfair.

On offense, their biggest problem, IMO, is Carr. He can play well at times, like he did against us in week 5, but then he'll have an inexplicably bad game, like he did vs. NE. He has a habit of fumbling snaps, or fumbling through the EZ, or throwing terrible picks, etc. Some of that isn't really on Gruden. Carr, at the end of the day, has to take better care of the ball, and play better situationally. Sometimes he does, and other times he doesn't. That inconsistency probably cost LV at least 2-3 games this season.

Add on the gaps in their defense, and their margin for winning gets pretty small. Give them a true franchise Qb and maybe Gus Bradley is actually a better DC, a couple upgrades on D, and who knows.

What do you do when your defense is one of the worst in the NFL? You lock up your 4th string qb of course!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> have signed QB Nathan Peterman to a one-year contract extension.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1357449454408921091?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The practice squad must really look up to Peterman. With moves like this that team is really going places, just you wait and see! (said every Raiders fan ever for nearly 20 years)

In what world is Ruggs an A plus ROFL ROFL ROFL

Waller was actually plucked from the Baltimore Ravens practice squad.

Ruggs didn't do much if anything at all. In his defense though he had no camp/pre season. It's hard enough to for WR to break out their rookie year. He has room to improve but is def not "A" anything. I thought Rookie WR Jefferson from the Vikings looked legit and he was the 4th or 5th WR taken.

Jacobs problems is Gruden is going to run him into the ground with how many carries he gets.

The Raiders are in a good position to improve and will have high expectations next year.

I recently watched a video describing the collapse of the 02 Bucs, and something I didn't realize was how much Gruden avoided restocking on defensive players and went all in on offense, ultimately leading to his demise. I don't see it playing out any differently here, especially with how easily he gave up Mack.

What the hell are you talking about?

How does anyone look at Waller, Ruggs and Jacobs and think that Jacobs is the A-? At least think a little.

Given the circumstances, Ruggs was fine. And there's no question he has elite speed, runs a decent route, and has decent hands. For 2020, he's a B+/A- in my book.

Jacobs is a top 10 RB in the NFL. For any team in any era that makes him a A+ draft pick.

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You just had to be there. <a href="https://t.co/8NeD2sXlFm">pic.twitter.com/8NeD2sXlFm</a></p>&mdash; Las Vegas Raiders (@Raiders) <a href="https://twitter.com/Raiders/status/1366455095911534597?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

This wouldn’t even be so pathetic if we didn’t win the more recent game.

LMAO LMAO LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">31-5 in the division since 2015.<br><br>Been there, done that. <a href="https://t.co/BlwhMg86yi">pic.twitter.com/BlwhMg86yi</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1367220542672154632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders 2019 free agency/trade adds:<br><br>WR Antonio Brown: 3-years, $50M, cut before season began <br><br>WR Tyrell Williams: 4-years, $44M, cut after two years, 42 catches<br><br>S LaMarcus Joyner: 4-years, $42M, cut after two years, 0 INT<br><br>OT Trent Brown: 4-years, $66M, available via trade</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1369026846872965121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mayock should have stuck to tv.

Raiders traded OT Trent Brown to the Patriots. https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/...449510912?s=21

That’s 3 offensive line starters gone.

Does Ritchie really count? He was out almost the entire year. Also hearing he's going to resign for much less cash. Not that I'm counting on a guy in his late 30's.

I suppose not but when he was healthy, he was still a good player, albeit a total asshole who you are probably better off without.

I’ve kind of missed being able to talk shit to the Donkey and Raiders fans. Can’t wait for them to try to sneak out of hiding next month to boast about their draft choices before we inevitably put them back into hiding in the fall. Rivalries aren’t too fun when they become this one sided.

They're much much more fun when the Chiefs always kick their ass. I'd like to keep it that way.

Raiders gonna sign some cheap G’s on the market and draft another first rd tackle

Raiders sending Trent Brown back to Pats

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can confirm the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> will acquire offensive tackle Trent Brown and a seventh-round pick in 2022 from the Raiders in exchange for a fifth-round pick. Brown, who was terrific in his one year in NE, has a agreed to a one-year deal worth up to $11 million. ESPN first to report.</p>&mdash; Jim McBride (@globejimmcbride) <a href="https://twitter.com/globejimmcbride/status/1369259041873158145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Love that every time I see it.

Go up about 6 posts

Keep it going!

So basically a Gruden guy. ROFL

Don’t forget about their recent drafts.

Ferrell, Abrams and Jacobs all 3 drafted in the 1st round. Josh Jacobs was among the least efficient running backs of the 2020 season, finishing 43rd of 51 backs with 100+ carries in YPC (3.9). Josh Jacobs is overrated. The only reason he was top 10 in rushing yards is because he was 3rd in carries. Dude averaged 3.9 ypc 43rd in the league below guys like Kenyan drake, Myles Gaskin, James Conner, David Montgomery, Jerome Robinson & Melvin Gordon, just to name a few.

Jonathan Abrams is atrocious, PFF has an overall grade of 35.9 on him.

Oh and Ferrell was the 4th pick in the 1st round ROFL.

Ruggs, Arnette and Bryan Edwards weren’t anything to brag about.

They traded their 3rd round pick Lynn Bowden Jr before he played one snap.

Gruden and Mayock have no clue what they’re doing.

Ritchie and Brown both were out most of the year. Brown was a turd for starting the year overweight, breaking Covid rules, etc. When Brown is motivated he is a player. Unfortunately he’s a turd after he gets paid.

Crosby plays like the 4th overall pick and Ferrell plays like the 4th rounder.

Big talk from a guy who is a fan of a team who struggled to avoid a sweep to the lowly Raiders in 2021.:p

Ouch!


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Exactly. I kind of miss the days when those Raiders-Chiefs weren’t glorified preseason games. It’s hard to get too excited about the divisional games when we play in such a shitty division that you’re given a 2-3 game cushion pretty much regardless of the outcomes since the rest of the teams are so shitty right now.

I think Herbert could potentially tighten up the chains in the division a little and that should help, but you could tell this team doesn’t play to the same level of urgency anymore in those divisional games with as big of a leash as they know they have. It will be interesting to see who the Raiders try to replace Gruden with next year.

Jon Gruden: the gift that keeps on giving!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gruden, from 2019: &quot;If we came up with the money to make the (Khalil Mack) contract happen, we wouldn’t have Trent Brown, we wouldn&#39;t have Antonio Brown, Lamarcus Joyner, and Vontaze Burfict, we wouldn’t have Tyrell Williams&quot; ... <br>Raiders did also get two 1st rounders for a 2nd.</p>&mdash; Vic Tafur (@VicTafur) <a href="https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/1369396194158510087?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Raiders have had a mid season collapse the past two years. Nothing to write home about and they def need to improve. Funny thing is most of the guys they handed out big contracts to didn't play much or at all and they still went 8-8. That is bad management and bad luck.

Trent Brown - couple of games
Tyrell Williams - Out for the year
Lamarcus Joyner - Played all year
Incognito - few games

Cutting these 4 players got the Raiders under the cap and have given the Raiders 30M+ in available cap space. Mariota will probably be cut next saving an additional 10M. Giving the Raiders roughly about 40M in cap space to play with. This year will be interesting for free agents as there is less money to go around due to the lower cap so the Raiders might be able to pick up some bargains. That is if they manage to sign better contributing players.

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In the video there's lots of beautiful women in that club. Not a KC cheerleader among them.

Another 1st rd bust.

From Vic Tafur:

Another 1st rd bust.

From Vic Tafur:

The Raiders are easily the worst drafting team of the last few years, and I don’t think it’s even close.

At least they have that joyride around Arrowhead to look back on when they get their asses stomped twice this year. Not even the refs will be able to save them.

Raiders add former first-round pick LB Darron Lee
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Thu, June 17, 2021, 4:40 PM

When you have a former NFL Draft guru as your GM, it’s expected that you might see a few former highly thought of prospects given a chance to return to their former glory. Today the Raiders officially added linebacker Darron Lee, making him the latest example of that.

Mike Mayock had Lee as his third best LB prospect in the 2016 draft. Lee would be drafted by the Jets with the 20th overall pick. His career did not turn out as expected and by the 2020 season, Lee was trying to find his way onto an NFL roster, spending the entire season on the Bills’ practice squad.

Lee spent the first three seasons of his career in New York. His time there ended in 2018 when he was suspended four games for violating the league’s substance abuse policy.

He was given a second chance in 2019 with the Chiefs, but started just two games and seeing most of his time on special teams.

Along with Lee, the Raiders added veteran journeyman CB De’Vante Bausby. To make room on the roster they waived CB TJ Morrison.

The Chiefs are better at football than the Raiders

This is why you don't see more "draft gurus" as GMs. On TV you can be wrong all the time and still somehow be employed as there are literally zero consequences. Not so in the NFL. I think Mayock's best pick since he has been there has probably been Crosby and that's probably more of a lucky he panned out than knowing he would be a later round steal.

LMAO

De’Vante Bausby has been with the Chiefs, Bears, Eagles, Broncos, Cardinals and more.

The dude's been passed around almost as many times as Direckshun's whore mother.

The media still treat the guy like a Super Star. Faders are bringing in our old retreads and guys with suspension histories. Smells like fear. :doh!:

The Raiders have had a lot of suckage for years. I think it's time the fans got together and paid a pilot to fly a banner around the stadium if they don't improve this year. Seems to have worked for the Chiefs.

Leave it to Raider fans to fly banners over a domed stadium. ;)

First Raiders depth chart!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You say you want a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> depth chart? <a href="https://t.co/FgyTDUx9ed">pic.twitter.com/FgyTDUx9ed</a></p>&mdash; Paul Gutierrez (@PGutierrezESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/PGutierrezESPN/status/1424857292768374797?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO Ferrell and Arnette 2nd string.

According to 610-Carr was crying that their were no fans last year and that is why they were 2-6 at home.

They kicked off their season with a Fan Fest spectacular, which amounted to an empty stadium. They have less fans than the Chargers.

I mean, the Sharters have had more winning seasons in the last decade than the Faders. Faders are like the Bungals of the AFCW, except the Bungles have had more winning seasons than the Faders in the last decade. The Faders are like the Jets of the AFCW, except the Jets and the Faders have had the same amount of winning seasons in the last decade. They’re like the Lions of the AFCW. That’s the perfect comparison. The Faders are the Lions of the AFC.

ROFL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">…he said to an empty stadium 😂🤣😭 <a href="https://t.co/M6pxFN0KdS">https://t.co/M6pxFN0KdS</a></p>&mdash; J Moyer (@JMoyerFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JMoyerFB/status/1424583026806165506?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

^ Carr is such a doofus, but at least his brother is picking him for MVP after an undefeated season.

I hate that POS franchise, but we all know they have a huge, national fan base.

I think a more accurate statement would be that there are fewer Raider fans in Las Vegas than there are Charger fans in Los Angeles.



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Ahhh yes, highlights from the Raiders’ “Super Bowl” from 2020. Congrats on the win guys :thumb:

Good season for the Raiders. :clap:

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That is funny stuff. Supposed to be a joke.

Don't quit your day job of selling meth.

how many blown Pass Interference calls did it take to win that game???

That Carr vid is embarrassing.

That's a Midwest thing. You should know the stereotypes....

Raiders = High school dropout Gangbanger tattooed prisoner types.

Chiefs = Meth head Camaro Iroc Z driving types with mullets.

More than one. Both teams had penalties though.

Raiders are so pathetic

I love that they keep thinking Derek Carr is a good QB

idiots ROFL