ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach

Ya know, the other side is paid to win also.

One of the top ten coaches of all time....and people call him a terrible coach.

Only on CP will we have people bitching if and when we win the SB.

This thread needs to be in the Hall of Shame.

Trivers

01-04-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14005841)

"Pretty sure".

Can you find me ONE Eagles fan who would trade last year's Super Bowl to have Andy Reid back?

Find ONE

'Pretty sure' you won't...

Let's rise above grade school logic, please .......

You stated 100% of eagles fans wanted to dump Andy and goes through the Kelly era. Which is incorrect.

Andy would have eventually won a SB in PHA. The poster stated he would not have. We know that eventually he would have. He is too good a coach.

NOBODY stated anything about trading a SB trophy to get Andy back.

You are wasting electronic ink.

chiefzilla1501

01-04-2019 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 14005676)

Widely considered an offensive genius who is revolutionizing the NFL, yet a terrible coach. Makes sense dudes.

Let’s see...post-Andy Philly has averaged 9 wins per year and had one season in which they won at least one playoff game. If they hadn’t won big last year, the post-Andy period is a huge failure.

It remains to be seen how consistently successful Pederson can be, but more than likely, the SB year is a big-time outlier and they’ll be a middling franchise that struggles to make the postseason.

Is an Eagles fan happy just to break through once vs having someone who had them in the mix every year and took them to the NFC championship in nearly half his seasons as HC?

If you’re honest with yourself, you couldn’t have expected Andy to best the likes of Brady, Manning and Roethlisberger with Alex Smith and a bad defense...could you?

With Mahomes and likely major defensive changes coming, the sky’s the limit.

Andy is an outstanding coach. And he can take it to the finish line if he gets out if his own way. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But show me first....
-Got rid of the game manager qb. Check.
-changed his offense to fit modern times. Check.
Next step... Don't be loyal and get rid of ineffective assistants. Prove to us you can put games away. Not just barely... Definitively.

Hammock Parties

01-04-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DelFan (Post 14005665)

Andy can be both bold and smart in the early part of games but when you need those qualities in the 4th quarter you won't get them.

Chiefs closed the door in the 4th quarter on:

Pitt (one score game)
Denverx2 (one score games)
Cleveland (had a one score lead before they salted it)
Oakland (one score game)
Baltimore (one score game)

That's half our wins this year.

Why wasn't Andy choking all these games away with his horrible 4th quarter game management.

Dumbass.

Red Beans

01-04-2019 09:26 AM

The one thing that I'll say is the true difference is a 5000/50 QB with a high football IQ. He can mask a lot of Reid's deficiencies, especially if he nuts up and starts adjusting at the line. Anecdotally, I feel like I've seen him do that more and more as the season progresses.

chiefzilla1501

01-04-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trivers (Post 14005844)

Plenty of reason to think this time may be different. But prove it first. If he wins a super bowl, he is probably a top 5 all time coach. I still like Marty, but I know his warts. The SD Marty era was a hard one to figure out. They were dominant in the most unmarty way ever but couldn't win a single playoff game. He just found ways to lose games. That's what makes us nervous. Calling him a terrible coach is definitely much... But he still makes me nervous.

chiefzilla1501

01-04-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14005871)

The Chiefs are going to face much better qbs than case keenum, carr, Lamar Jackson, and a baker Mayfield running an offense he just learned days before gametime. People are worried because Russell Wilson and Philip rivers are the types of qbs we'll see week after week in the playoffs.

I'll give Reid the benefit of the doubt. If it's true he's drastically taking the defense into his own hands, then that proves he's willing to adjust from his stubborn support of Sutton. That change goes a long way. I would hope that also means Reid recognizes he can't trust his defense to close games. I actually have a lot more faith now than i ever have that Reid will see the light. Those nut kicking losses may have been a gift to us.

Pasta Little Brioni

01-04-2019 09:44 AM

You realize we probably face that turd Jackson in the Divisional, right?

RINGLEADER

01-04-2019 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14005897)

It’s also how those teams play us and suck up Mahomes time with the ball.

And when he does have it we can’t have only 8 offensive series and go 3-and-out in half of them (like we did vs the Chargers).

Said it all season that if the Chiefs execute on offense they are unstoppable. We’ve seen them play at a higher level and I’m hoping the return of Watkins, if it happens, will get us back to a place where any defensive missteps will be overcome.

chiefzilla1501

01-04-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14005903)

You realize we probably face that turd Jackson in the Divisional, right?

He's literally the only qb in the entire afc playoffs who I don't mind leading a 4th quarter charge. We can't close games the way we have against playoff Brady, luck, Watson, or rivers. Reid needs to walk into every playoff game with the mentality that our D is going to give up way too many points in the 4th quarter. I trust he's learned that lesson by now... We'll see.

chiefzilla1501

01-04-2019 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 14005911)

100% agree. I think I counted that on about 2/3 of drives where we lead by more than 1 score, we go 3-and-out or 6-and-out. We're the #3 offense in nfl history. We are way too good on offense to be that ineffective in those situations. Clearly Reid is doing something different on O when we're leading. Let Mahomes be mahomes in the 4q and we'll be fine.

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