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***OFFICIAL 2019 Chiefs Training Camp Thread*** (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=324078)

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 14372132)

They can have Robinson for a 5th rounder + Janoris Jenkins, howboudah

Wouldn't take Jenkins if they offered him with a 5th round pick in tow for free.

Let's set aside the $10 million base salary this season that will rob of us cap rollover that could be used on Hill/Jones and just discuss his play on the field. The guy's washed. And frankly, for most of his career he's been overrated because of his splash plays. Meanwhile he'd get absolutely torched a handful of times/season while guessing.

I wouldn't be even a little bit surprised to see him cut outright.

Depending on how quickly he picks up the playbook, I can see Tremon Smith making the team as RB4.

Darrel Williams is a big pile of meh, and Smith has value as a KR.

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14372149)

Depending on how quickly he picks up the playbook, I can see Tremon Smith making the team as RB4.

Darrel Williams is a big pile of meh, and Smith has value as a KR.

Basically the guys fighting for those bottom spots RB 3/4 WR 5/6 just got some new competition.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14372142)

You are then putting all the hopes of a position that is very important into a guy that is injury prone a rookie and a UDFA that has never played in an actual game...

I think people are acting like Pringle is a 1st round pick and it's weird.

:facepalm:

I'm the dude who screams at K State dipshits around here who still pine for Tyler Lockett. I'm not some KSU homer at all. I don't give a rat's ass about KSU.

Or Byron Pringle for that matter.

However, is it reasonable to say that Byron Pringle could be our WR4?

Yes. Definitely yes. And if he can't do the job, do we have lots of other guys who could figure it out? Yes we do.

That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying trade ****ing Hill and put Pringle in his place.

Christ.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14371855)

Generally speaking it's good to be out in front of those markets if possible. I'd like to see the Chiefs be the first to get their man signed rather than wait until Thomas and Jones sign. Cooper's gonna get paid as well.

Each of them are going to want to 'reset' the market even if they don't have much to justify it. If they can get Hill for the $16-18 million that was floated, they should do so. I'd rather see 4-5 years than the 3 being rumored, but anything to firm up the salary structure and give the Chiefs clear cost visibility can only help them going forward.

Agreed on all counts.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14371838)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark was late to the Chiefs’ practice this morning, which started at 9:15. Clark spent time with his family in St. Joseph before realizing he was late. He was pulled over by local authorities just outside of Missouri Western State’s campus for speeding, per the Chiefs.</p>— Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1156578106012000257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Come on Frank

I don't think O was melting down about this, more of a "cut the shit Frank." Kind of thing.

In which case, I agree. Cut the shit, Frank.

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14371908)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs have signed CB Michael Hunter, per source. 2016 undrafted free agent from Oklahoma State, he’s spent time with six NFL clubs, last with the New York Giants.</p>— Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1156586791350218754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hmmm. They must really be convinced they can do nothing with Smith at CB.

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14371939)

Dude was struggling catching punts earlier. **** it just keep Tyreek as PR. But I swear to god if Tyreek fields another punt inside the 5 and runs sideways I’m gonna lose my shit

You keep saying this and it keeps being a terrible butt****ing idea.

We're about to pay him a significant chunk of the cap. You don't run him out on low-leverage plays. Playoffs where you need one? Let's roll.

Against the ****ing Jags in September? GTFO here with that shit.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14372018)

Darrell Williams is ok, he's basically a fall forward gain 3-4 yards type, he isn't gonna make big plays.

Now something interesting, if you work Smith as a HB/WR hybrid that plays special teams you could conceivably give him the 6th WR spot and figure out some ways to use his speed...he probably has more value than Dieter or the other WRs battling for that spot.

Even if Hardman has the spot, you'd think that he could move to gunner since DAT is gone now and keep a spot if you're looking at ST guys. He must be truly terrible at corner. If he can do some gadgety shit on offense and cause a split second of hesitation, whatever. I'm in.

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14372154)

And in a reasonable situation I might agree with you but you are literally a Sammy Watkins injury away from Hardman and Pringle taking significant snaps, which would hurt to a degree.

No way I trade Drob unless you get something spectacular in return. He made alot of big plays last year and I fully expect him to continue to improve and I expect big things out of him.

And for the record, Tremon Smith is a butt****ing awful corner but a guy with 4.3 speed can have offensive value for only that reason.

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14372112)

Trent Williams is available for trade. Redskins must've really pissed him off.

Sounds like it might be the Patriots making the trade. Goddamnit Redskins.

The Texans should be begging them for a deal. Watson was the 4th highest sacked QB ever last year and he evaded a lot more using his legs

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14372176)

The Texans should be begging them for a deal. Watson was the 4th highest sacked QB ever last year and he evaded a lot more using his legs

They already blew that wad, they signed Matt Khalil and they used their first 2 picks on OL.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14372176)

The Texans should be begging them for a deal. Watson was the 4th highest sacked QB ever last year and he evaded a lot more using his legs

Too bad they traded their upper-tier LT because he was an inmate that got too uppity.

No to trading DRob. Yes to trading a pick for a CB.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14372157)

And in a reasonable situation I might agree with you but you are literally a Sammy Watkins injury away from Hardman and Pringle taking significant snaps, which would hurt to a degree.

We're literally a Sammy Watkins injury away from Demarcus Robinson taking significant snaps, too.

Last year we actually DID have a Sammy Watkins injury and we had to throw shitty ****ing Chris Conley out there. Yeah, he had speed, but he had more trouble getting open than if we asked Mitchell Schwartz to play WR and Jalen Ramsey was defending him.

Pringle being the 3rd option if Watkins went down isn't the doomsday scenario you paint it to be, because if it is, we're kinda ****ed not matter what if Watkins goes down. And no, I'm not saying we actually would be. That's just the claim going around right now--- inexperience at the WR position (no matter how talented) being the next man up is a very bad thing.

It wouldn't be as smooth as Watkins, but we'd be just fine.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14372115)

"Man, people really have a hard-on over Byron Pringle because of a couple of decent pre-season games before he missed the entire damn season w/ an injury. That sure seems strange, I wonder why...."

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Oh. Now I get it.

Fellas, the odds are overwhelming that Byron Pringle is a JAG. He'll probably make the team and he'll probably have a few moments here and there, but why the hell are we just assuming he's a better player than Robinson, who has physical tools for days and is in his 4th year in this system?

Now I'd be willing to trade Robinson for the right return, but this idea that he's just gonna plummet down the depth chart because of a UDFA who had a couple of nice games against backups and then missed the entire season is just silly.

Heh. I’m not a KSU fan, but I love me some Pringle. He’s a better high point receiver with better long speed. I mean did we ever see Robinson burning corners downfield?

The Raiders TD was, well the the Raiders and Robinson didn’t burn the corner deep.

To me Robinson is an intermediate threat as a backup that Hardman will easily replicate. I think Pringle is such a good replacement for Conley bc he can give you what the old Conley (pre-Achilles year) did.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14372115)

Homerism is a big part of his hype.

But he balled out last preseason.
Veach/Reid shared that he would have made the final roster if not for his injury.
He's reportedly looked great through OTAs and early TC, earning compliments from teammates and leadership and media.

Not sure that he's ahead of D-Rob at this point.