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DRM08 11-27-2020 12:48 PM

He’s playing very well right now. I kinda think he was tanking on purpose to get rid of O’Brien.

dlphg9 11-27-2020 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15353602)
But Alex had Andy Reid, Tyreek and Kelce. Oh and Hunt too. Tannehill’s success is dependent on Henry. He uses play action and bootlegs just like Rat QB’s did in Denver.

Watson has no HC and the thing about him was that Hopkins was his safety net. Now that he’s gone the guy is having a career year.

He’ll never be Patrick Mahomes, but nobody is. Watson is a top 10 QB and honestly we’d be happy with him if we weren’t able to get Patrick.

He's having a career year statistically while piling up garbage time stats. He's been trash in the 1st quarter and has allowed his team to fall behind.

Everyone's gonna start sucking his dick again because wow oh wow he has a high QB Rating and he's led them to 4 wins. 2 wins against the 1-9 Jags, 1 win vs the 4-7 Lions, 1 win against the 4-6 Pats. How outstanding of him that his only wins are against losing teams with a combined record of 10-31.

So he's cranking out wins vs trash teams and padding stats at the end of games where the TDs and YDs mean nothing. How very top 10ish of him.

Bob Dole 11-27-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15353655)
Literally no one has said he should be mvp.

I can’t remember who it was, but someone actually said that this morning.

Bob Dole 11-27-2020 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15353738)
I can’t remember who it was, but someone actually said that this morning.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bat...e-nfl-mvp-race

DanT 11-27-2020 01:12 PM

When I've seen Watson play, which hasn't been that often and includes his relatively poor game against the Chiefs this year (QBR of 45.1), he looks like a good QB to me, a winner. Right now, he's ranked 9th in QBR (https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr). Of the 8 QBs ahead of him, he younger than 6 of them. Mahomes is 3 days younger and Josh Allen is 9 months younger than Watson. I think Watson is going to get even better than he already is, because experience really helps most talented young QBs get better and better.

You can see his 2020 splits here: https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/spli...deshaun-watson

TEX 11-27-2020 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DanT (Post 15353749)
When I've seen Watson play, which hasn't been that often and includes his relatively poor game against the Chiefs this year (QBR of 45.1), he looks like a good QB to me, a winner. Right now, he's ranked 9th in QBR (https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr). Of the 8 QBs ahead of him, he younger than 6 of them. Mahomes is 3 days younger and Josh Allen is 9 months younger than Watson. I think Watson is going to get even better than he already is, because experience really helps most talented young QBs get better and better.

You can see his 2020 splits here: ttps://www.espn.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/3122840/deshaun-watson

He's gonna get better also b/c BOB is finally out of his way. Ive seen most of his games - dude can play and he's a leader. Very coachable too. If KC would have drafted him, he'd be better than he is now. Cant understand how anyone could say that he's not a Top 10 QB. I think I've said that at least 10 times throughout this thread, so what's one more?...

TEX 11-27-2020 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15353729)
He's having a career year statistically while piling up garbage time stats. He's been trash in the 1st quarter and has allowed his team to fall behind.

Everyone's gonna start sucking his dick again because wow oh wow he has a high QB Rating and he's led them to 4 wins. 2 wins against the 1-9 Jags, 1 win vs the 4-7 Lions, 1 win against the 4-6 Pats. How outstanding of him that his only wins are against losing teams with a combined record of 10-31.

So he's cranking out wins vs trash teams and padding stats at the end of games where the TDs and YDs mean nothing. How very top 10ish of him.

You're way off base here. He's not Drew Lock.... Watson has been playing very well at all junctures of games since BOB was fired. As far as doing it against bad teams, well he's on a bad team himself. Its pretty obvious you have a narrative and aren't seeing the full scope of how he is playing.

CasselGotPeedOn 11-27-2020 02:14 PM

It's crazy to think the AFC is gonna have Mahomes, Watson, Burrow, and Lawrence. Not to mention guys like Allen, Tua, and Herbert. Lotta Qb talent in the conference.

RunKC 11-27-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15353729)
He's having a career year statistically while piling up garbage time stats. He's been trash in the 1st quarter and has allowed his team to fall behind.

Everyone's gonna start sucking his dick again because wow oh wow he has a high QB Rating and he's led them to 4 wins. 2 wins against the 1-9 Jags, 1 win vs the 4-7 Lions, 1 win against the 4-6 Pats. How outstanding of him that his only wins are against losing teams with a combined record of 10-31.

So he's cranking out wins vs trash teams and padding stats at the end of games where the TDs and YDs mean nothing. How very top 10ish of him.

3.5 of Chris Jones 5.5 sacks this year were against teams with losing records. Guess he sucks too.

Maybe now you’ll see how stupid that logic is.

ChiefsCountry 11-27-2020 02:52 PM

Watson is better than what CP thinks he is and worst than what the national media thinks he is. I'm glad he isnt in the AFC West or on Baltimore. Raiders or Ravens would be legit good with Watson as their QB.

MahomesMagic 11-27-2020 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15353902)
Watson is better than what CP thinks he is and worst than what the national media thinks he is. I'm glad he isnt in the AFC West or on Baltimore. Raiders or Ravens would be legit good with Watson as their QB.

Good post, probably true.

Pitt Gorilla 11-27-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15353902)
Watson is better than what CP thinks he is and worst than what the national media thinks he is. I'm glad he isnt in the AFC West or on Baltimore. Raiders or Ravens would be legit good with Watson as their QB.

Mostly agree, although Carr is good as well. Loved how Watson played yesterday.

htismaqe 11-27-2020 04:00 PM

You know, looking through my list, I see a lot of age on there.

If I took out the older guys and went solely on youth, Watson is probably #2 on my list after Mahomes. Either him or Josh Allen. Maybe Kyler Murray.

With guys like Herbert and Burrow, they're TOO young and haven't really proven they can sustain in the NFL.

Everybody else that is really good has multiple years of experience, they aren't really "young" anymore, not even Wilson.

In fact, if I really look at it, the list is Mahomes, Watson, Murray, and Allen and that's kind of it.

So yeah, I may have to rethink my stance on Watson. I still don't know that he'll ever be an elite QB but I probably haven't given him a fair shake.

-King- 11-27-2020 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15353729)
He's having a career year statistically while piling up garbage time stats. He's been trash in the 1st quarter and has allowed his team to fall behind.

Everyone's gonna start sucking his dick again because wow oh wow he has a high QB Rating and he's led them to 4 wins. 2 wins against the 1-9 Jags, 1 win vs the 4-7 Lions, 1 win against the 4-6 Pats. How outstanding of him that his only wins are against losing teams with a combined record of 10-31.

So he's cranking out wins vs trash teams and padding stats at the end of games where the TDs and YDs mean nothing. How very top 10ish of him.

You realize his record was 24-13 before this season right? And he still was putting up really good numbers. So no, I don't buy the "it's just garbage time stats" bullshit.

If BoB didn't completely ruin that team he'd still be putting up great numbers except they'd be winning too.

TwistedChief 11-27-2020 08:54 PM

The narrative that Watson is a guy who gets all his yards during garbage time is something conjured up by Chiefs fans after we first faced him in 2017. And at that point, it was fair.

It’s pretty clear since then he’s done a lot more than that though. And if he were our starter, I’d respect the hell out of his game.


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