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carcosa 08-28-2023 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17076593)
If you’re in a ppr league I might lean toward Rice. He seems like the kind of guy who will get fed whereas Ross would be the type to get the goal line targets.

Yeah I'd be happy to get either of them late. I could just see Ross having an absurdly high touchdown rate. Mahomes hasn't really had the type of red zone threat that Ross could become.

Dunerdr 08-28-2023 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17076597)
Rice will be lucky to get 30 catches.

Didn't you hate Mahomes in 17 and 18 too? This is a great sign for Ross.

Hammock Parties 08-28-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17076646)
Didn't you hate Mahomes in 17 and 18 too? This is a great sign for Ross.

Well, no.

HOWEVER, I was no fan of Tyreek early on so...you might have me there.

TEX 08-28-2023 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17076597)
Rice will be lucky to get 30 catches.

I think you're right...But, will he have 30 drops is the question? Kidding of course, but he appears to be the same guy he was in college. Hopefully, he can correct the drops.

BleedingRed 08-28-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17076663)
I think you're right...But, will he have 30 drops is the question? Kidding of course, but he appears to be the same guy he was in college. Hopefully, he can correct the drops.

His drops are concentration drops, he has the hands to catch anything.

But hopefully with coaching etc he can improve.

RaidersOftheCellar 08-28-2023 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17076650)
Well, no.

HOWEVER, I was no fan of Tyreek early on so...you might have me there.

How could you not like Hill’s potential?

RaidersOftheCellar 08-28-2023 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17076663)
I think you're right...But, will he have 30 drops is the question? Kidding of course, but he appears to be the same guy he was in college. Hopefully, he can correct the drops.

How many drops did he have in college and were they in big moments?

Megatron96 08-28-2023 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17076876)
How many drops did he have in college and were they in big moments?



Enough that it's mentioned in his pre-combine scouting report. Twice.

TEX 08-28-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17076876)
How many drops did he have in college and were they in big moments?

24 drops in 44 games. Not a good ratio.

saphojunkie 08-28-2023 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16308194)
If Ross ends up being that large catch radius perimeter WR i've been going on and on about for the past two seasons, then i'll pretty much just STFU about anything draft related for the rest of Veach's tenure. Egg-on-face. Gladly.

LFG

BWillie 08-29-2023 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17076597)
Rice will be lucky to get 30 catches.

Bet? Rice will get alot more than that. I think James or MVS will be leading receiver but thats just because Rice is an unknown. I could see a path where he ends up as WR1 by end of year.

BWillie 08-29-2023 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17076935)
24 drops in 44 games. Not a good ratio.

I think we are looking at this wrong. If he has 24 drops, which I do not know if that is true, but if he did that's 24/360 targets in his college career which is about 6%. The average drop rate in the NFL is 6.7%. Rice had such high usage in college the drop rates started to add up. Travis Kelce has some of the best hands in the NFL and it is 5.3%.

There is very little correlation in the NFL for drops from one WR to the next. It doesn’t even matter.

TEX 08-29-2023 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17077348)
I think we are looking at this wrong. If he has 24 drops, which I do not know if that is true, but if he did that's 24/360 targets in his college career which is about 6%. The average drop rate in the NFL is 6.7%. Rice had such high usage in college the drop rates started to add up. Travis Kelce has some of the best hands in the NFL and it is 5.3%.

There is very little correlation in the NFL for drops from one WR to the next. It doesn’t even matter.

Are u actually saying there is not much difference between 5.3% and 6.7%?

Rice leads all KC WR's in drops during preseason. Are u diminishing that because he has more targets? Am I understanding you correctly?

30 catches this year for Rice was mentioned. You think it will be more. How much more?

Anyway, to stay on thread topic, Ross is better than Rice IMO.

Simply Red 08-29-2023 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 17076556)
I'm praying that I can scoop him up in a late round for fantasy but there's another Chiefs fan in my league who might pounce first. The potential ROI is crazy

Oh for sure! I know what I'd buy if I won!!! A brand NEW HOSE!!!!!

Simply Red 08-29-2023 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17076597)
Rice will be lucky to get 30 catches.

VERY lucky since Jerry Rice doesn't play now.


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