And you COULD suddenly post intelligent, well-constructed arguments.

I'll play the odds.

They’ve had some injuries and suspensions iirc so I doubt it happens

Not for Rhodes it was for Trae Waynes.

Rudy is a moron. Move along.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes throwing left-handed is more accurate than half of the QBs in the NFL. <br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChiefsReporter</a>) <a href="https://t.co/YTbEUIYH2V">pic.twitter.com/YTbEUIYH2V</a></p>&mdash; The Reid Option (@ReidOptionKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReidOptionKC/status/1155247459888771073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Durr let me tell you how I could possibly be right that a Day 3 draft pick may suck.

-A moron

Well that kinda sucks, it’s not like the cupboard is bare at CB by any means... but I sure wouldn’t mind adding another young veteran

Ah, I stand corrected but would prefer Rhodes

look at that elevation

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes —&gt;Hill 😌 <a href="https://twitter.com/cheetah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@cheetah</a> looked good out there today at <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@chiefs</a> training camp👀 <a href="https://t.co/srwVa1ieXz">pic.twitter.com/srwVa1ieXz</a></p>&mdash; 🦄Selene Rivera (@selene_crivera) <a href="https://twitter.com/selene_crivera/status/1155271687136514049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Let's say you did a throwing distance competition among all NFL QBs. Backups and starters alike

What percentage of QBs would Mahomes beat if he competed throwing left handed?

Like, it's fair to say he'd beat a Damon Huard type guy (does the NFL have anybody like that right now?) but could he top out the starters with below average arm strength?

Mariota. Do you think he could beat Mariota? What about somebody who was average and now has a bit less zip on the ball due to age like Brady?

More importantly, for QBs like Drew Lock, do we count their wildly inaccurate arms against their total distance score if they couldn't pinpoint the general direction of throwing down the field? Like, if he fires a pass and it takes a wild path in the air before landing 10 yards behind him, is that a negative distance score?

Sorenson isn't a bad player you idiots need to get over the fact isn't Berry in his prime.

NFL Network had some reporter on yesterday who was saying that Tom Brady throws at higher speeds than Patrick Mahomes II.

Right now. The reporter was saying that in 2019 Tom Brady has more zip on the ball than Patrick Mahomes II.

This would be a fun contest to watch. NFL-wide, I mean. Not Brady versus Patrick Mahomes II, because that would be a non-event.

If the CBS are dog shit in preseason, you probably see another Ward-like trade or a vet signing (like Scandrick was).

If they can’t nail the position down by midseason again, I expect a bigger move at the deadline.

If it’s that big of a problem they really ****ed it up in the offseason

I don’t think it will be but I’d still like to see them make a move just for some depth

When is Mahomes going to have a throwing contest with Josh Allen.

I don’t think they’re bad at CB if they’re healthy.

It’s if you lose someone like Fuller for awhile, that’s when you have big problems. Just as you probably would at offensive tackle or TE.

I think it’s a solid group as is. Serviceable.

Steve Smith 2.0

But much FASTER!

Any word on how Reeser has looked? Smith has the talent but he’s a project that’s best chance at making the team would be to be the return man again. Wild that he was one of the best returnmen in the league, and isn’t even the best one on our team.

When Steve Smith daydreams, he imagines what it must be like to be Tyreek Hill.

More concerned with the linebackers. Might be one of the worst units in the league.

More zip on the ball than Mahomes. Tom Brady. Mmhmm. Right.

Was that said as a poetic hyperbole? Like if you're hungry and you say, "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse!" that indicates that anybody who could actually eat an entire horse would perform a super-human feat and be the greatest there ever was at eating mass quantities of food. Like, a person who could eat a horse is Patrick Mahomes when it comes to throwing and putting zip on the ball. As it is, it's not possible for a human to eat an entire horse in one sitting, nor is it possible for Tom Brady to put more zip on his throws than Patrick Mahomes, but by comparing yourself to the superhuman, you're trying to say that it's an extreme case by your own mortal standards. You're hungry and are trying to say "Let's get food because I'm hungry" by using hyperbole, just as a sports reporter is saying, "Man, for a 42-year old pedophile, Tom Brady can put a lot of zip on his throws!"

Eh dunno

Lee hitch and the other dude from Dallas are atleast decent

A first round bust, one of the most overpaid players in the game, and some scrub from Dallas. I know what were drafting next year.

Lee graded out pretty well last year, just like your mom at Hedonism.

Hitchens was good in a 4-3 which he’s in again. It’s hard to judge a guy their first year learning a defense, but this time it’s at least closer to what he’s used to with simpler assignments. Lee was one of the best coverage linebackers in the league last year, which is what he’s here to be.

On top of our DC sucking last year, he was running a system without the most important piece, a true NT. Our defense has gone to shit since losing Poe because you can’t run a 3-4 without a NT.

I wouldn’t discount the value of adding new position coaches too

A corner? Spagnuolo doesn't value LB's heavily

offense is ON FIRE

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticKC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheAthleticKC</a> Chiefs writer <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a> joins <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HaroldRKuntz3</a> to discuss Training Camp. Here&#39;s a preview of what&#39;s to come tonight. <a href="https://t.co/9IpbXFC1vR">pic.twitter.com/9IpbXFC1vR</a></p>&mdash; FOX 4 Sports (@fox4sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/fox4sports/status/1155609874434351106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Does Mahomes go for 5000 and 50 again?

I know the defense should be better but Brady and Manning had solid defenses when they did it, so Mahomes should be able to as well.

Imagine a guy having 100 career TD passes at age 24. LMAO

Mahomes left at least 10 TDs on the field last year due to terrible deep ball accuracy. That’s scary in what could be

PHEW....Pat is so locked in already.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes to Hill. Wash, rinse, repeat. <a href="https://t.co/43uyeTP88k">pic.twitter.com/43uyeTP88k</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Zenner (@NPNowZenner) <a href="https://twitter.com/NPNowZenner/status/1155492033655693313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

After watching Bienemy's press conference, I really think he might be the best OC we've had of the Reid era. He's probably the most well-rounded guy we've had from the standpoint of being an innovator but also from knowing the finer points of coaching each offensive position, and tying those together to create gameplans.

He talked about Watkins' size combined with his speed and how tall dudes can be fast, but it makes it more difficult to control that height and do sudden direction changes while keeping up that speed, and how that's something he really really encouraged Watkins to improve and fine-tune this year and how it's paying off.

He didn't say this, but it's kind of clear that he coaches players to improve technical aspects of their positions with the understanding of, "If you do this, we can run X and add Y element to Z packages..."

And he's doing that across the board. Obviously for RBs, but also the TEs, WRs, OL, and he's still working closely with Mahomes and the other QBs.

People were a bit worried about a guy with only RB coaching experience running an offense based so heavily on creative pass concepts, but I think Bienemy is a bit more refined in the way he can work with all of the offensive positions moreso than Pederson and Nagy were. And as it is, we've still got fantastic QB coaches to keep up on Mahomes.

And this makes sense. Andy Reid wasn't a QB. He was an OL guy, whose first position coach job was TEs, and then one day out of nowhere he was the QB coach to Brett Favre, who had just won a Super Bowl. I don't think there's any reason why Bienemy couldn't become equally as adept, particularly if he possess Andy Reid's creativity.

Bienemy's demeanor is really good too - he comes across as a guy players would respect but also like. But he could get on their ass too and they wouldn't tune him out.

Despite all that has happened, you can tell that he's thrilled to be here. And a great deal of that has to do with him understanding full and well that this team and this fan base, the fans that actually took the time to see beyond the surface bullshit, have his back 1000% and will fight tooth and nail to make damn sure that what happened to him in Oklahoma will NEVER happen to him in Kansas City.

I expect Bienemy to be a HC this time next year.

If we win it all, you can bet the farm he will

Which team ya think?

Mahomes has the ability to top what he did last year, but if the defense is better he likely won’t, and we’ll still win more games.

That would depend on what teams fire their coaches..

I think Quinn, Obrien, and Garrett are on the hot seat.

Should’ve left it at the gangbang, much funnier that way

I expect him to continue his tutelage for the job under Reid. It's a HUGE jump, and the market will always be there for the talented.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You can say &quot;Mahomes looks great.&quot; and everyone will rightfully say &quot;Duh.&quot;<br><br>I&#39;m telling you, it&#39;s different.</p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1155530512708059138?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is going to be good!

50 /50 5000/5000 MVP/MVP

I'm glad others are getting that same vibe. I know I can tend to go homer in camp.

This isn't homer Clay boner juice.

This is a strange and wonderful creature evolving into a force of nature.

Year 1 Pat had to watch Alex run the offense, and learn the playbook this way.

Year 2 he has his own highlights to go back and watch. He has lived the moment and can fix each throw and situation in his head if that scenario happens again. Plus he worked hard on his footwork this offseason.

With the training camp crowd close to 10,000 in attendance that's bordering on a third of the average attendance for a 2018 Raider game

Also, 10,000 matches the combined attendance totals for the 2017 and 2018 Chargers

Jags. I think Moron-ee gets canned after this season. I’d rather him stay and wait til Andy retires and take his spot but who knows how long that’ll be. Andy is about to win back to back Super Bowls.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> broke the attendance record for non-stadium <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsCamp?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsCamp</a> practices yesterday, and today, they broke the all-time two-day record. <br><br>This is the new normal.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1155587122692329479?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He ain't kidding.

Get there early.

REAL EARLY.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyreek Hill returns to field, but it’s two steps forward, one step back for Chiefs star, writes <a href="https://twitter.com/vgregorian?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@vgregorian</a>. <a href="https://t.co/ZtKeWTcJLX">https://t.co/ZtKeWTcJLX</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Rosen (@jeff_rosen88) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/1155643392245866496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rosen should just commit that

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On the day he boasted about his plans for constant growth, Tyreek Hill should have resisted acting on a grudge against a reporter <a href="https://t.co/ANQKnSyJnd">https://t.co/ANQKnSyJnd</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1155567863773745152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The entire offseason the biased media has been saying "Mahomes is poised to take a step back this year." I guess they were right...

In practice, he is taking 1 step back and firing lasers to open guys. No wasted movement, footwork, and accuracy looking amazing!

There is a Reek thread for this garbage.

she's not going to **** you, vahe

what a sickening display of white knighting

**** off, star

He's aighit leave him alone

no, seriously

**** them

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAmvJwqX...pg&name=medium

I get why hill did what he did, don’t really blame him if things are the way we’ve been told


But I wish he’d have just bit his tongue so to speak and moved on

BS He did everything he needed to do everything else is extra bullshit

Yeah, not clicking on that.

Maybe I'll give them a click if the title is something like, "I'm sorry for being a terrible reporter unable to separate news and facts from biases and opinions." Variations on a theme and whatnot.

As long as they continue to stick their heads in the sand and insist they did nothing wrong and especially exacerbate it by scolding Hill when he gives a VERY polite, "**** you" to the person who almost ruined his life, I'm not clicking on any of their shit.

imagine being such a shitty paper that you decide you need to write an op-ed about someone asking for someone else's name

because of twitter outrage

imagine

Chris Jones debuts at #36 in NFLs top 100. Dude is a top 40 player in the NFL!! Pay him Veach!!!

Dont give the fake news any clicks. Just discussing its falling into their bullshit. They are doing it to try and save their failing publication

if you feel the need to post these articles from sources that we have all deemed unworthy to receive clicks, please post a synopsis of the garbage that goes with it.

"The Star's reporting has been impeccable"

Back that claim up, Vahe. Let's have this conversation.

Chile renujos are excellent..The KC Star sucks shit....they'll be broke after a certain receiver takes them to court

Aren't these little twats just precious?

Any ideas on the early feeling around the league on which cb is a potential cut?

Good...make them squirm..****ing rodents. I hope they fear for their safety...they brought it on themselves. It's justified. Nothing is free...and karma just waits, patiently.

They dont get to pretend they didn't attempt to ruin a man's life...cowards.

I hope the locals keep the heat on them...run those clowns out of town.

The Star needs to be terrified of him too, bitch.

I said a few weeks ago...that their careers in KC are over...they just haven't realized it yet.

This blowback isn't going to go away...people are genuinely pissed off. Kansas City is too small...they arent going to forget.

Fat Brooke isn't going to be able to peddle her yellow journalism agenda anymore...her cred is destroyed beyond repair.

Chiefs have Mahomes and are legit SB favorites...the entire city isn't down with the media trying to sabotage them. We all heard the cheers for Hill... nobody is buying their horseshit.

Of the ones worth a shit? Nothing to be concerned about. A bunch of Orlando Scandrick has-beens. I think DRC will probably get the ax, but bringing him in isn't going to help jack shit if our corners aren't any good.

If our CBs are awful, we ain't fixing this by dumpster diving. Veach is going to have to make a Patrick Peterson type trade.

Same as it was last year. I'm going to trust he actually makes the deal this time.

YES

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Underrated <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> moment of the day:<br><br>Patrick Mahomes goes for the hug, Eric Fisher goes for the handshake, but no way Pat was letting his LT get out of it. ���� <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatrickMahomes</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Big_Fish79?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Big_Fish79</a> <a href="https://t.co/YT08Z4ncZC">pic.twitter.com/YT08Z4ncZC</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Zenner (@NPNowZenner) <a href="https://twitter.com/NPNowZenner/status/1155521845015265280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I told you vahe was garbage.

That settles it. Patrick Mahomes is Jesus. He performs miracles. He loves being with people on the team who have issues. Yeah, he teaches elite followers like Kelce, but he'd rather spend time with the losers. I can see his locker room pep talks now:

Blessed are the disliked #1 overall pick fatties from terrible draft classes, for they shall look competent!

Blessed are the talentless undrafted loser WRs, for they shall make the 53 man roster!

Blessed are those unfairly framed for heinous acts by local fish wrap, for they shall avoid suspension!

Blessed are the WRs ignored by Alex Smith, for they shall catch my first career TD pass!

Blessed are the defensive backs who complain about no-look passes in practice, for their asses shall be dragged to a Super Bowl victory!

Yep..he needs to go.

They had a small window to redeem themselves...they just nailed it shut.

Sorenson made the best defensive play in our biggest game in 25 years. I'm willing to extend some leeway for that.