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KChiefs1 10-11-2021 05:57 PM

Is Herbert better than Mahomes?

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Megatron96 10-11-2021 06:01 PM

Steve Young was just on MNC saying that Lamar Jackson was the more talented QB over Herbert.

Apparently Steve isn't aware that some of us have functional eyes.

Wisconsin_Chief 10-11-2021 06:09 PM

To me, this is the most disappointing aspect of this team falling from grace. What Mahomes did the past 3 years is nothing short of godly and they are going to cast him aside as soon as humanly possible to promote their precious LA franchise and Herbert. So many people already saying he's better and they'd take him over Pat. Just spewing garbage like Mahomes hasn't just lead this team to two straight Super Bowl appearances and broke every record there was in his first 50 starts.

They couldn't wait for this team to falter so they could start really pushing their big market coastal bias again. It also shows in the complete lack of calls he gets from officials. They have no interest in protecting him. Makes me sick, and Mahomes deserves so much better. I have especially hated listening to Collinsworth. I thought the dude was literally going to cum in his pants when we lost to the Ravens.

King_Chief_Fan 10-11-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15888681)
To me, this is the most disappointing aspect of this team falling from grace. What Mahomes did the past 3 years is nothing short of godly and they are going to cast him aside as soon as humanly possible to promote their precious LA franchise and Herbert. So many people already saying he's better and they'd take him over Pat. Just spewing garbage like Mahomes hasn't just lead this team to two straight Super Bowl appearances and broke every record there was in his first 50 starts.

They couldn't wait for this team to falter so they could start really pushing their big market coastal bias again. It also shows in the complete lack of calls he gets from officials. They have no interest in protecting him. Makes me sick, and Mahomes deserves so much better. I have especially hated listening to Collinsworth. I thought the dude was literally going to cum in his pants when we lost to the Ravens.

this is a what have you done lately league.
Herbert and Allen both look better than Mahomes today...it could change and Mahomes regains his media darling status

JakeF 10-11-2021 08:35 PM

Brandon Staley/Joe Lombardi or Andy Reid?

richpjr 10-11-2021 11:47 PM

I think if you gave any GM in the league either Herbert or Mahomes to build a team around they would be ecstatic. If both stay healthy we'll see some great football over the next decade.

PurpleJesus28 10-12-2021 12:14 AM

Do Herbert,Allen,Lamar all have more talent around them on both sides of the ball ? Yeah,i'd say they do esp. on defense.Have any of them won a Super Bowl yet ? Get back to us when one of them does.Then it might be a discussion.

NEOM 10-12-2021 12:28 AM

Let Herbert guide the Chargers to the Super Bowl and then we can talk about being on Mahomes level. Herbert is very very good QB, but as I said about Mahomes, show it to us over a peroid of time, just like Rodgers and Brady have shown us. Then we can talk about greatness and GOAT.

UChieffyBugger 10-12-2021 01:40 AM

The reality is the media love to hype up the "traditional" QB's i'e white, 6'5 with a big arm, against the Alien that is Mahomes. They did it with Allen last year and they're doing it with Herbert now.

If anyone watched the Chargers gane you would know that two of his TD's were dump offs that the RB worked magic to get to the house..and another one was a busted coverage.

Mahomes still leads the league in TD passes though much to the media's annoyance.

Best22 10-12-2021 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15889734)
The reality is the media love to hype up the "traditional" QB's i'e white, 6'5 with a big arm, against the Alien that is Mahomes. They did it with Allen last year and they're doing it with Herbert now.

If anyone watched the Chargers gane you would know that two of his TD's were dump offs that the RB worked magic to get to the housr..and another one was a busted coverage.

Mahomes still leads the league in TD passes though much to the media's annoyance.

Mahomes wasn’t exactly the media’s choice for the next great QB, but he kind of forced himself into that position by being awesome and gained fans from among NFL media and writers.

He’s not going anywhere, but I wonder if there are other QBs the NFL would prefer to see reign. Allen gets babysoft RTP calls that Mahomes never gets, despite being bigger and more prone to run.

Overall the media loves Mahomes, but he is more polarizing because of his success. Nobody hates Allen or Herbert because they haven’t won anything yet. No one cares. They don’t move the needle, like Mahomes.

GoForIt 10-12-2021 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15888681)
To me, this is the most disappointing aspect of this team falling from grace. What Mahomes did the past 3 years is nothing short of godly and they are going to cast him aside as soon as humanly possible to promote their precious LA franchise and Herbert. So many people already saying he's better and they'd take him over Pat. Just spewing garbage like Mahomes hasn't just lead this team to two straight Super Bowl appearances and broke every record there was in his first 50 starts.

They couldn't wait for this team to falter so they could start really pushing their big market coastal bias again. It also shows in the complete lack of calls he gets from officials. They have no interest in protecting him. Makes me sick, and Mahomes deserves so much better. I have especially hated listening to Collinsworth. I thought the dude was literally going to cum in his pants when we lost to the Ravens.

Winning will change it back.

NEOM 10-12-2021 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 15888681)
To me, this is the most disappointing aspect of this team falling from grace. What Mahomes did the past 3 years is nothing short of godly and they are going to cast him aside as soon as humanly possible to promote their precious LA franchise and Herbert. So many people already saying he's better and they'd take him over Pat. Just spewing garbage like Mahomes hasn't just lead this team to two straight Super Bowl appearances and broke every record there was in his first 50 starts.

Well...that's the curse of being great. Look at other great athletes. Mahomes will always be compare to his previous years, as soon as he falls short, it will be seen as a sign of weakness and failure, it didnt help him either that people started comapring to Michael Jordan and other great athletes. Fans and media outlets pushed his story so far that it implied you dont need a defence as long as you have Mahomes as QB. All bullshit.

Look at Rodgers. People wrote him off. After last season, suddenly, he is back at the top and people are telling us, what Mahomes has done, Rodgers can do as well...

DTVietnam 10-12-2021 04:50 AM

Mahomes is off now but still taking him over anyone in the league..
i really think he had too much early success and it went to his head..
these ass beatings will be good for him in the long run ..

DRM08 10-12-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 15889762)
Mahomes is off now but still taking him over anyone in the league..
i really think he had too much early success and it went to his head..
these ass beatings will be good for him in the long run ..

The ass-beatings have more to do with the front office failing to build a good roster than they do with Mahomes. You have 3 good players and the rest of the roster is pretty flawed.

synthesis2 10-12-2021 08:46 AM

Herbert is a good QB no doubt about it but I'd imagine that the reason some of the national guys are saying this is simply for click bait or just to get more people to read their articles etc, basically its just a pure PR type of comment.

Just like Skip and Shannon, I don't care for either of them but their program is very successful program and Skip ( we all may hate him but he is very popular) always puts down mahomes etc says he is lucky all the time , on and on, its just a PR thing to people get emotional about it.

I think Herbert's ceiling is Donavan McNabb, he will have a nice career and a outside chance of making a SuperBowl if lightning strikes right. But when it comes to accomplishments , AFC championships, AFC West Titles, Superbowls, he will pale in comparison to Mahomes.

Fun thing to talk about but zero comparison.


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