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Ceej 07-07-2021 01:07 PM

Can't believe the team Self has now compared to last year's.

Night and ****ing day.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-07-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 15733307)
Can't believe the team Self has now compared to last year's.

Night and ****ing day.

Yeah, it is a complete overhaul. It needed it.

Titty Meat 07-07-2021 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 15733306)
I think KU's roster is entirely too crowded for him to consider Lawrence seriously at this point.

Yup it's literally 2 tournament teams put into 1.

smithandrew051 07-07-2021 04:53 PM

I need Fall to hurry up and get here. Only having the Royals on sucks.

I need Chiefs football and KU basketball. I feel pretty confident one of my teams will win a title this year.

Kiimo 07-08-2021 03:19 PM

I think Marcus Garrett made a mistake not coming back. I'd love to see him at the 2 and 3 with this group

ROYC75 07-09-2021 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15733201)
KU has been the 1st or 2nd best team in the country probably 10 times in the last 25 years and have made 2 championship games. Law of averages. S16 or Final Four finishes both would not surprise me in the slightest.

While your comments and statistics are valid, this team is loaded! Anything short of a Championship title game appearance is a colossal failure!

lawrenceRaider 07-09-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15734713)
I think Marcus Garrett made a mistake not coming back. I'd love to see him at the 2 and 3 with this group

While we may miss his Defense, his limited offense won't be missed.

smithandrew051 07-09-2021 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15735233)
While we may miss his Defense, his limited offense won't be missed.

Agreed. He was great two years ago when we were absolutely elite defensively. When we’re not great defensively (which we won’t be), it’s probably better to just load up offensively and outscore everyone.

He would give us more balance, but probably keep us from having an elite offense and wouldn’t elevate us to an elite defense.

Buehler445 07-09-2021 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15735233)
While we may miss his Defense, his limited offense won't be missed.

From a technical perspective, sure.

But I miss the guy. Dude had want-to, played hard, played in big moments. Nothing to fault with Marcus Garrett. But yeah, he was limited offensively.

BigRedChief 07-09-2021 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15735249)
From a technical perspective, sure.

But I miss the guy. Dude had want-to, played hard, played in big moments. Nothing to fault with Marcus Garrett. But yeah, he was limited offensively.

He always gave you 100%. But, he should never have been the point guard. We need to score. The team clears out to the edges and the plan is for Garrett, alone, to drive and beat the defense? Thats a very low point in this era.

Lzen 07-09-2021 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15735257)
He always gave you 100%. But, he should never have been the point guard. We need to score. The team clears out to the edges and the plan is for Garrett, alone, to drive and beat the defense? Thats a very low point in this era.

Agreed. Garret was never a good fit at PG. Much better as a 2 or 3, IMO.

BWillie 07-09-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15735121)
While your comments and statistics are valid, this team is loaded! Anything short of a Championship title game appearance is a colossal failure!

I used to think that way but it's hard to control results in the NCAA Tournament. I feel like if you go to the Final Four it's always a successful season no matter what.

BWillie 07-09-2021 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15735233)
While we may miss his Defense, his limited offense won't be missed.

He's like Ben Simmons. It kills your spacing offensively. Coaches love him, and he has value but in today's game I'm not sure it's as much as Bill thinks it is.

BWillie 07-09-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15735257)
He always gave you 100%. But, he should never have been the point guard. We need to score. The team clears out to the edges and the plan is for Garrett, alone, to drive and beat the defense? Thats a very low point in this era.

I'll admit. I expected more from him at the PG. He showed good passing acumen in the years before and was a PG in high school - it just didn't come together for him. Without Doke and Dot his assist numbers actually dropped his JR year from 4.6 to 3.7 his SR year when he was given much more minutes at PG. I guess having to play with one-dimensional players in Bruan and Agbaji and more of a plodding bigman in McCormack took it's toll.

KC_Connection 07-09-2021 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15735342)
He's like Ben Simmons. It kills your spacing offensively. Coaches love him, and he has value but in today's game I'm not sure it's as much as Bill thinks it is.

I'll take Ben Simmons all day, every day as an off-ball 3rd or 4th offensive option on a team. You run into problems when he becomes a top scoring option, which is what Garrett last year became by default.


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