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Chiefspants 06-02-2023 09:31 PM

Nate's ending was a copout. Keeley's ending was a copout.

The rest was fine. I feel the show expanded out and lost itself a bit in Season 2 -- I don't think you give as much of the timecode to Nate and Sam unless you have a worthy ending in mind for those two -- and I don't think they did.

Overall, not a bad watch at all. Good show with some memorable moments.

chiefzilla1501 06-03-2023 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16968389)
Nate's ending was a copout. Keeley's ending was a copout.

The rest was fine. I feel the show expanded out and lost itself a bit in Season 2 -- I don't think you give as much of the timecode to Nate and Sam unless you have a worthy ending in mind for those two -- and I don't think they did.

Overall, not a bad watch at all. Good show with some memorable moments.

When Ted said the book was never about him, that seems to suggest a spin-off is inevitable. Teds arc is the only one that’s complete. the main goal was to just end storylines in Teds orbit. Maybe that’s why they set the final part as a dream. Because that’s how Ted envisions those storylines wrap up but there’s probably quite a bit more story to tell with everyone else.

arrowheadnation 06-03-2023 11:35 PM

I worry this will be similar to Michael Scott leaving the office. They'll go into a spinoff that will probably be pretty good out of the gate, but many of the actors are going to "grow out" of these roles (like Krasinski and Ed Helms) and want to move on (Brett Goldstein may already be there, Waddingham won't be far behind). That being said, I really hope they do it. This show helped get me through some pretty dark times in late 2020/2021 when my dad was dying of cancer.

chiefzilla1501 06-05-2023 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 16969229)
I worry this will be similar to Michael Scott leaving the office. They'll go into a spinoff that will probably be pretty good out of the gate, but many of the actors are going to "grow out" of these roles (like Krasinski and Ed Helms) and want to move on (Brett Goldstein may already be there, Waddingham won't be far behind). That being said, I really hope they do it. This show helped get me through some pretty dark times in late 2020/2021 when my dad was dying of cancer.

I think that's why Keeley pitched the women's soccer team. It helps them add more female characters and build new characters from scratch while focusing on the arc of building something new like ted originally did. Because I agree there's a great cast of characters still left and of course the intrigue of winning it all but maybe not enough juice left to carry the show on their own.

DJ's left nut 06-05-2023 08:52 AM

Unless the female soccer players are as hilarious as the female hockey players on Letterkenny, I can't imagine that show keeping my attention.

They can either have 3400 fans in the stands and no national/local awareness of the existence of the team whatsoever, or they can just be unrealistic as hell.

Then again, I'm not sure how you can maintain a spin-off of Ted Lasso without that sort of feel-good DNA and I just don't know how a Roy-centric show can pull that off. Roy's prickly nature is what makes him entertaining. And honestly, HIS arc has largely wrapped up at this point, IMO.

Jamie, Sam, Nate, Keeley and maybe Beard have someplace to go at this point. Ted, Rebecca and Roy have reached a logical conclusion to their storylines. And I'm not sure Nate or Keeley are interesting enough to carry a show on their own.

chiefzilla1501 06-05-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16970210)
Unless the female soccer players are as hilarious as the female hockey players on Letterkenny, I can't imagine that show keeping my attention.

They can either have 3400 fans in the stands and no national/local awareness of the existence of the team whatsoever, or they can just be unrealistic as hell.

Then again, I'm not sure how you can maintain a spin-off of Ted Lasso without that sort of feel-good DNA and I just don't know how a Roy-centric show can pull that off. Roy's prickly nature is what makes him entertaining. And honestly, HIS arc has largely wrapped up at this point, IMO.

Jamie, Sam, Nate, Keeley and maybe Beard have someplace to go at this point. Ted, Rebecca and Roy have reached a logical conclusion to their storylines. And I'm not sure Nate or Keeley are interesting enough to carry a show on their own.

I don't think that survives on its own. It's a secondary arc to the main arc which is the men's team winning the whole damn thing. I just think it'll be hard to make that work on its own. A few hotties may help keep my attention.

I think arrowheadnation has it right that it's gonna be like The Office without Michael Scott. Which is a step down but at least it's still on. Unlike The Office I think introducing a side plot will keep the men's storyline from overexhausting story arcs that probably don't have a lot more you can do with it. I read a good point about The Office that one of the downfalls was that after they had exhausted their A plots, that's when you started to see the show become more about everyones personal lives which is where the show got less interesting.

DJ's left nut 06-05-2023 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16970462)
I don't think that survives on its own. It's a secondary arc to the main arc which is the men's team winning the whole damn thing. I just think it'll be hard to make that work on its own. A few hotties may help keep my attention.

I think arrowheadnation has it right that it's gonna be like The Office without Michael Scott. Which is a step down but at least it's still on. Unlike The Office I think introducing a side plot will keep the men's storyline from overexhausting story arcs that probably don't have a lot more you can do with it. I read a good point about The Office that one of the downfalls was that after they had exhausted their A plots, that's when you started to see the show become more about everyones personal lives which is where the show got less interesting.

Major League 2 is what happens when a band of plucky upstarts gets close, doesn't QUITE win it all and then you have a 'run it back' story where they finally get over the top.

That...wasn't great. All they could do was make most of the same central characters more hokey and slapstick while tossing in a couple of WAY over the top 'sidekicks' to freshen it up. Which doesn't work when you still have the original crew around who would really dominate that clubhouse.

What might've been really fascinating is having Roy go to back to Chelsea as the Manager and Nate/Beard stay at Richmond. Then you have a really good opening to introduce new characters, you see Roy without the crutch of his history at Richmond, you open up the story to let Jamie be more active in a leadership role at Richmond. You see if there's a way to put a 'distance relationship' element in there with Roy/Keeley. You see how much of Roy's new outlook is sustainable without Ted.

You can create an entirely new front-office dynamic with Roy and his boss. You can see how Nate/Rebecca manage each other and how Beard finds traction without Ted there.

You open the universe up a little more. And hell, maybe that would've been disastrous. But I think it might have a chance to actually succeed as well.

I'm just not sure there's a path forward where things sit at present.

arrowheadnation 06-09-2023 07:08 PM

Hmmm...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Smells like potential. <a href="https://t.co/yZY6lirebY">pic.twitter.com/yZY6lirebY</a></p>&mdash; Apple TV (@AppleTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/AppleTV/status/1666105302134009856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Zebedee DuBois 06-09-2023 09:16 PM

Roy DID become a member of the Diamond Dogs.

Roof, Roof!

BigRedChief 06-10-2023 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 16976139)
Hmmm...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Smells like potential. <a href="https://t.co/yZY6lirebY">pic.twitter.com/yZY6lirebY</a></p>&mdash; Apple TV (@AppleTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/AppleTV/status/1666105302134009856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So they are going on with Lasso without Lasso? This is confirmed?

BWillie 06-10-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 16976139)
Hmmm...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Smells like potential. <a href="https://t.co/yZY6lirebY">pic.twitter.com/yZY6lirebY</a></p>&mdash; Apple TV (@AppleTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/AppleTV/status/1666105302134009856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I sure hope not. Beard is an awful awful character.

BWillie 06-10-2023 02:58 PM

So did Ted Lasso really...

Spoiler!

DJ's left nut 06-11-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16976800)
So did Ted Lasso really...

Spoiler!

We don't know but I don't think so.

They left it open for interpretation.

Chiefspants 06-11-2023 11:18 AM

That wasn't my read either. He was returning for his kids and to be there in their lives.


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