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Old 03-27-2017, 02:23 PM  
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****Official 2017-2018 Missouri Tigers Basketball Thread****
Back up in your ass with the resurrection. Follow the Cuonzo Martin era here.

Recruiting Commitments:

2017:
Michael Porter Jr., SF, *****, Gatorade National Player of the Year
CJ Roberts, PG, ****
Blake Harris, PG, ***/****
Jeremiah Tilmon, F/C, ****
Kassius Robertson, Grad Transfer
Jontay Porter (possible re-classification from Class of '18), ****

Departures: No one that matters
Returning Players: No one that matters

Overall class ranking: #6 nationally.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:25 PM   #2
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In all seriousness, good luck guys. Hope the KU-MU rivalry is brought from the dead soon. With Porter you guys could take it to us in the Big 12-SEC classic in Columbia next year.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:29 PM   #3
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A new and hopeful beginning for Mizzou basketball.

Martin, like Rogue One, has brought us hope.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:32 PM   #4
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Still not 100% sold on CM as coach, but he IS a million times better than Kermit! Thank god that era is over!!

Time to march back towards respectability, at least to start.

IF CM can recruit as good as they say he can, maybe it can make up for some of his coaching deficiencies.

Time will tell . . . . .


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Old 03-27-2017, 02:33 PM   #5
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Kinda nice that a top 150 recruit rescheduled (see: cancelled) and it wasn't because we were selling him a shitburger.

By many accounts, he thought he'd have a hard time getting run behind Roberts. We're getting turned down by a quality recruit for the right reasons. For the first time in, what, a decade?

I still stress patience here - it's taken a lot of good coaches 2-3 years to get a program turned. Howland is just now showing some traction and I think he's probably among the 20 best coaches in the NCAA. Frank Martin showed progress but not results in his first 3 years.

This team can/should play .500 ball and challenge 20 wins if the recruiting class gets another piece or two. But I think Duncan's expectations of an NCAA bid and actual run are pretty unreasonable. Kentucky gets 5 McDonald's All-Americans every year (to add to their stable of already existing 4 star recruits that couldn't get PT the year before) and still spend a month or so finding their form.

Young teams take time and that time will be when they're going through the softer part of their schedule where you'd hope they can bank wins. It may not happen like we hope.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:36 PM   #6
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:41 PM   #8
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I would expect this team to struggle as they jell, later becoming dangerous late in the season as they get used to playing with one another. An NCAA berth is too optimistic at this point, IMO. Too much detritus on the roster.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:48 PM   #9
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My expectation level is set at making the tournament. NCAA, not NIT.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:51 PM   #10
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Back up in your ass with the resurrection. Follow the Cuonzo Martin era here.

Recruiting Commitments:

2017:
Michael Porter Jr., SF, *****, Gatorade National Player of the Year
CJ Roberts, PG, ****
Roberts should have an actual asterisk (instead of stars), as he hasn't yet reaffirmed his commitment.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:52 PM   #11
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My expectation level is set at making the tournament. NCAA, not NIT.
Why?

Christ alive man, look at this roster. 1 superstar can make that kind of difference in basketball, yes, but even the very best recruits take a little time to get humming at this level. When selection Sunday comes and Mizzou is 3-4 wins shy because of some early season losses that happened when the (hopefully) massive influx of youth comes in, you'll feel that pinch.

To call that an expectation is just not fair. You're either looking at a team with a bunch of slag on the roster (worst case scenario) or a team that managed to find 5 scholarships and fill them with 4 star or better recruits that are going to take a month or more to come together.

Because that's basketball. Hell, even the 3 quality holdovers are going to be dealing with an entirely new system and new coach. There's nothing that's going to be smooth about the first month here - it's the nature of the beast.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:55 PM   #12
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Roberts should have an actual asterisk (instead of stars), as he hasn't yet reaffirmed his commitment.
Not formally, but he hasn't requested to be released from his LOI (he has to be proactive here, IIRC). Moreover, I think Blake Harris rescheduling is EXTREMELY telling. Harris looked like a fall-back in case they lost Roberts.
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Martin's coaching job in Tennessee was the very definition of making chicken salad out of chicken shit. The only issue I see is he has basically the exact same record everywhere he goes. Either he has a ceiling or he hasn't stuck long enough to really fine tune the system and get over that 23-25 win hump.
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Why?

Christ alive man, look at this roster. 1 superstar can make that kind of difference in basketball, yes, but even the very best recruits take a little time to get humming at this level. When selection Sunday comes and Mizzou is 3-4 wins shy because of some early season losses that happened when the (hopefully) massive influx of youth comes in, you'll feel that pinch.

To call that an expectation is just not fair. You're either looking at a team with a bunch of slag on the roster (worst case scenario) or a team that managed to find 5 scholarships and fill them with 4 star or better recruits that are going to take a month or more to come together.

Because that's basketball. Hell, even the 3 quality holdovers are going to be dealing with an entirely new system and new coach. There's nothing that's going to be smooth about the first month here - it's the nature of the beast.
I'm an optimist. It may be unfair to have a tournament berth as an expectation, but I don't think it's that unfair. Maybe Mizzou's futility these past few years make getting into the tournament seem really hard, but with 72 teams in the field, it's not all that exclusive.

Really, I just needed to post something to subscribe to the thread though.
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