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Old 03-14-2019, 03:15 PM  
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Chiefs sign Alex Okafor [restructured]

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Old 03-14-2019, 04:18 PM   #106
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You’re really gonna use a season in which Ford missed 6 games and wasn’t there for them in the playoffs as a good year? That only supports the argument to move on.

This defense is not purely reliant on winning one on ones like Sutton’s. They’re going to bring pressure in all sorts of different ways. And maybe stop the ****ing run, another factor that cost them in the AFCCG.
Yeah the picture is shaping up. Seems like they know what they're doing.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:18 PM   #107
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Exactly...

... the offense getting shutout in the first half, and allowing 4 sacks and 1,000 hurries had ZERO to do with it...

... Or Hill being shutdown by JONATHAN JONES...

... nah it was JUST THAT ONE PLAY...
It’s not that it was one play. It was the type of mistake

Unforced error
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:19 PM   #108
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Hill was bracketed by the McCourty brothers.
Lol glad someone said it
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:19 PM   #109
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I don't know how we'll do vs pass but I think our run defense will be much improved.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:21 PM   #110
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:22 PM   #111
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If Okafor struggles to stay on the field, that’ll be a good thing. It means we either added more talent, or Speaks took a huge step forward, or both.
I don't think he's going to be challenging speaks.

Our line today would be:

Okafor, Jones, Nnadi, Speaks

That's honestly a pretty stout run stopping unit and we have the size upfront to really let our linebackers do some damage in blitzing downs.

If Okafor struggles to stay on the field it's because we drafted an edge guy who is stealing his snaps...not Speaks.

The way the D-line is shaking up I really hope we find a way to get Devin Bush in the first.

Dorian O'Daniel + Devin Bush and occasionally the Honey Badger getting set loose on blitzes is going to cause a ton of havoc.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:22 PM   #112
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Hope Daly brings some of that good shit he was using in the playoffs. Repeatedly ****ed some damn good OLs.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:23 PM   #113
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Right, let’s focus on one play when the defense as a whole played like trash cause Sutton was once again lost. Let’s scapegoat our most productive defensive player and trade him for a 2nd in two years then sign career unproductive players for close to the same amount of money. (Adding Okafor to whatever trash CB we overpay)

Of course fans who can’t see beyond hE CoSt uS tHe sB tHo can’t see why an actually intelligent GM like John Lynch jumped all over that trade and immediately paid him. hE wAs oFfSiDeS tHo
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:24 PM   #114
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I don't think he's going to be challenging speaks.

Our line today would be:

Okafor, Jones, Nnadi, Speaks

That's honestly a pretty stout run stopping unit and we have the size upfront to really let our linebackers do some damage in blitzing downs.

If Okafor struggles to stay on the field it's because we drafted an edge guy who is stealing his snaps...not Speaks.

The way the D-line is shaking up I really hope we find a way to get Devin Bush in the first.

Dorian O'Daniel + Devin Bush and occasionally the Honey Badger getting set loose on blitzes is going to cause a ton of havoc.
If we got Devin Bush my opinion would change heavily but that’s not going to happen at 29 and he’s not ballsy enough to trade up for a MLB.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:25 PM   #115
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There’s more to defense than sacks. We were one of the best teams at getting pressure last year and were nearly last in defense. Every game we lost was because of defense. Young talented DE with upside and was a starter for the #1 rushing defense. Good signing, and good riddance to Ford who’s career year is behind him. He will be hurt until his next contract year again.
Everyone keeps using the fact that our defense from last year sucked despite having a superior pass rusk like it wasn't a statistical outlier. Rarely do teams rush the passer as efficiently as the Chiefs did last year yet perform so poorly overall defensively.

The lesson from last year was that coaching matters, not that pass rush doesn't.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:26 PM   #116
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Dee Ford's brothers are back.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:27 PM   #117
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It's going to be great when Ford gets hurt again and these guys have nothing to say.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:27 PM   #118
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Dee Ford's brothers are back.
A joyous occasion indeed...
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:28 PM   #119
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No I’m gonna use the 2016 season where he started in 15 games and had 10 sacks and was top 10 in the league in pressures as a good season.

Obviously the defense is going to improve with Spags scheme, Ford would have also improved against the run became an all pro player in it. It’s cool tho instead we’ll have Alex Okafors run defense while Brady throws slants to Edelman, while Ronald Darby watches in a track suit from the sidelines.
Zero sacks after week 9 in 2016. Down the stretch and into the playoffs Dee the Pass Rushing Unicorn disappeared completely.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:29 PM   #120
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Right, let’s focus on one play when the defense as a whole played like trash cause Sutton was once again lost. Let’s scapegoat our most productive defensive player and trade him for a 2nd in two years then sign career unproductive players for close to the same amount of money. (Adding Okafor to whatever trash CB we overpay)

Of course fans who can’t see beyond hE CoSt uS tHe sB tHo can’t see why an actually intelligent GM like John Lynch jumped all over that trade and immediately paid him. hE wAs oFfSiDeS tHo
Dude, Ford lined up off sides multiple times over the years and never learned his lesson. I guarantee you the patriots were in the refs ear because you know they were aware that was part of his profile. At the most crucial point of the most important Chiefs game in decades he repeated a stupid mistake that he's made too many times and it cost us a trip to the super bowl.

That said, one play is not the reason he was traded. He was traded because the risks of giving him a big contract outweighed the potential reward. Building a better defense for the Mahomes era begins now. And it means having a more balanced and more versatile defense full of consistent performers. Ford was a one-dimensional pass rusher and a liability in the run game. He was inconsistent, injury-prone, and had a low football IQ as evidenced by never learning to line up correctly.

I liked Ford and always wanted him to prove the naysayers wrong. And he may do just that in SF. But based on his track record there was no way the team could throw big money at him. The odds of it turning into another albatross of a contract were too good.
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