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Megatron96 · 09-12-2019, 05:51 PM

So I've come around to the idea that we might need to address the CB situation sooner rather than later.

In that vein, I was wondering what we think of S Minkah Fitzpatrick of the Miami Dolphins.

6' 1" 200 lbs.

2018 stats
80 tackles
9 pass defended
2 INTs

I know, he's listed as a safety. But last year, out of 1,000 snaps played, he actually played over the slot and on the boundary in nearly 700 snaps. And when he was targeted, he allowed just a 51% completion rate, and a QB rating of only 49%. Okay, 49.7%.

And while he's still got 3 years to go on his contract, he looks cheap, at about 3-4 million/year.

Maybe a solid possibility?

O.city · 09-13-2019, 07:46 AM

Yeah I’d move a 2nd for him

Have him for 4 years for cheap and he’s a good player very versatile

Jerok · 09-13-2019, 07:47 AM

If they get this guy for a second I'll shit my pants. Its gonna be a first to start negotiations.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 09-13-2019, 07:50 AM

I’d trade a 1st for Fitzpatrick or Peterson even

We’re going to be picking 30-32 odds are, who cares about the pick. We want a Lombardi.

O.city · 09-13-2019, 07:51 AM

I wouldn’t trade a first but I’d do a 2nd

Especially if you can recoup it after the season

Chris Meck · 09-13-2019, 07:52 AM

I think in general, you seriously consider any move that adds good young contractually controlled talent.

The reality is that we're going to be picking near the end of every round for the forseeable future. One way in which we can re-stock quality talent is in trades for guys like Fitzpatrick. He's a better player than anyone we're going to get at say, pick #64.

In terms of long-term cap health, moves like this are a good idea for a team that's going to be competitive for the long haul; and if you've got Patrick Mahomes, we should be in the hunt every year.

Whether they fit a glaring immediate hole or not, you seriously consider a move like this.

Skyy God · 09-13-2019, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

bro

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...114-story.html

Apparently his best role (at least last year) is slot QB. So you bounce Fuller outside (where he graded out well last year), let him walk in 2020, and hopefully get a 2021 3rd compensatory pick.

https://deadspin.com/minkah-fitzpatr...ami-1838091409

DTVietnam · 09-13-2019, 07:52 AM

why should we be worried about our secondary?

i mean cmon guys we held the great Gardner Minshew to only 275 yrds and 2 TDS and a mere 88% completion ratio. .
and he only averaged 11 yrds per throw . .

Mahomes:
75.8% 378yrds 11.5 per throw 3TDS

pugsnotdrugs19 · 09-13-2019, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

I wouldn’t trade a first but I’d do a 2nd

Especially if you can recoup it after the season

Why not?

He’s a potential top notch corner. Odds are we never get that at 30-32.

Plus he helps this year immensely I’d say.

O.city · 09-13-2019, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Why not?

He’s a potential top notch corner. Odds are we never get that at 30-32.

Plus he helps this year immensely I’d say.

If he can be a top notch outside corner, maybe

I dunno if he can be

Mecca · 09-13-2019, 07:55 AM

Considering we are a year removed from him being a top 15 pick and performing well as a rookie, it's not a bad idea.

staylor26 · 09-13-2019, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

They want a reported 1st for Fitzpatrick. Howard is not available and even if he was, he’d be worth even more. Patrick Peterson isn’t available. People need to come to terms with the fact that this group they have now is it for 2019. We are one game into the season with a completely new defense - players AND coaches. We waited 35 years for Patrick Mahomes. Be freaking patient.

They didn’t free up all that cap space to sit on it. They’re going to make a move.

And Albright said they would probably settle for a 2nd.

**Bowser** · 09-13-2019, 07:56 AM

If he can be a net positive for the defense you absolutely make the trade, especially considering the control you would have over him and that contract.

KentuckyChief · 09-13-2019, 07:57 AM

If you’re the fins and shopping M. Fitzpatrick, would you take Ragland and our second 2nd rounder?

Chris Meck · 09-13-2019, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

I wouldn’t trade a first but I’d do a 2nd

Especially if you can recoup it after the season

well, I would argue that the #32 pick and the #50ish pick...isn't really all that different in terms of talent. If Spagnuolo likes the kid and thinks he fits, make the deal. If he does, it allows you future cap flexibility in a couple of spots (Fuller/HB) and adds young talent.

I wouldn't think of him as a 3rd safety. I think positional flexibility is the idea here in this scheme. Think of him as a hybrid defensive back and probably like the second or third best player in the secondary.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 09-13-2019, 07:58 AM

Fitzpatrick makes the most sense from the perspective of wanting to pay Mahomes and Jones soon. That’s harder if you go with PP.

Idk I think it’s a Veach move all day long.

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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Megatron96's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Should the Chiefs look at S Minkah Fitzpatrick as a CB? So I've come around to the idea that we might need to address the CB situation sooner rather than later. In that vein, I was wondering what we think of S Minkah Fitzpatrick of the Miami Dolphins. 6' 1" 200 lbs. 2018 stats 80 tackles 9 pass defended 2 INTs I know, he's listed as a safety. But last year, out of 1,000 snaps played, he actually played over the slot and on the boundary in nearly 700 snaps. And when he was targeted, he allowed just a 51% completion rate, and a QB rating of only 49%. Okay, 49.7%. And while he's still got 3 years to go on his contract, he looks cheap, at about 3-4 million/year. Maybe a solid possibility? Last edited by Megatron96; 09-12-2019 at 06:11 PM..
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09-13-2019, 07:46 AM	#61
O.city In Search of a Life O.city's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2009	Yeah I’d move a 2nd for him Have him for 4 years for cheap and he’s a good player very versatile
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09-13-2019, 07:47 AM	#62
Jerok Veteran Join Date: Sep 2013	If they get this guy for a second I'll shit my pants. Its gonna be a first to start negotiations.
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09-13-2019, 07:50 AM	#63
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2013	I’d trade a 1st for Fitzpatrick or Peterson even We’re going to be picking 30-32 odds are, who cares about the pick. We want a Lombardi.
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09-13-2019, 07:52 AM	#65
Chris Meck MVP Chris Meck's Avatar Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC	I think in general, you seriously consider any move that adds good young contractually controlled talent. The reality is that we're going to be picking near the end of every round for the forseeable future. One way in which we can re-stock quality talent is in trades for guys like Fitzpatrick. He's a better player than anyone we're going to get at say, pick #64. In terms of long-term cap health, moves like this are a good idea for a team that's going to be competitive for the long haul; and if you've got Patrick Mahomes, we should be in the hunt every year. Whether they fit a glaring immediate hole or not, you seriously consider a move like this.
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O.city In Search of a Life O.city's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2009	I wouldn’t trade a first but I’d do a 2nd Especially if you can recoup it after the season
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DTVietnam Veteran DTVietnam's Avatar Join Date: May 2018	why should we be worried about our secondary? i mean cmon guys we held the great Gardner Minshew to only 275 yrds and 2 TDS and a mere 88% completion ratio. . and he only averaged 11 yrds per throw . . Mahomes: 75.8% 378yrds 11.5 per throw 3TDS
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Mecca Hockey Town Mecca's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri	Considering we are a year removed from him being a top 15 pick and performing well as a rookie, it's not a bad idea.
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2013	Fitzpatrick makes the most sense from the perspective of wanting to pay Mahomes and Jones soon. That’s harder if you go with PP. Idk I think it’s a Veach move all day long.
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