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Old 09-12-2019, 05:51 PM  
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Should the Chiefs look at S Minkah Fitzpatrick as a CB?

So I've come around to the idea that we might need to address the CB situation sooner rather than later.

In that vein, I was wondering what we think of S Minkah Fitzpatrick of the Miami Dolphins.

6' 1" 200 lbs.

2018 stats
80 tackles
9 pass defended
2 INTs

I know, he's listed as a safety. But last year, out of 1,000 snaps played, he actually played over the slot and on the boundary in nearly 700 snaps. And when he was targeted, he allowed just a 51% completion rate, and a QB rating of only 49%. Okay, 49.7%.

And while he's still got 3 years to go on his contract, he looks cheap, at about 3-4 million/year.

Maybe a solid possibility?

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Old 09-13-2019, 08:51 AM   #136
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Look, I know I'm a glass-half-full kind of guy, but I think this is a move you make if you can. Regardless of whether you think Minkah fills your biggest hole, he's a legit first round talent in his second season; one in which you're likely to be drafting in the 30's. You're not going to get a player like that in our draft slot. You just aren't. You make the deal if you can, and you keep looking for ways to improve your club.
Absolutely. Unfortunately that’s true of every team in the league not based in Miami. I just don’t see it happening.

And for me personally I just don’t see it as a huge need. Im not as down on the backfield as most.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:51 AM   #137
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Look, I know I'm a glass-half-full kind of guy, but I think this is a move you make if you can. Regardless of whether you think Minkah fills your biggest hole, he's a legit first round talent in his second season; one in which you're likely to be drafting in the 30's. You're not going to get a player like that in our draft slot. You just aren't. You make the deal if you can, and you keep looking for ways to improve your club.
Exactly, obtaining Fitzpatrick doesnt even effect the salary cap as they would need to cut someone to make room for him so the difference in salary cap is minimal, maybe even less if they cut someone like Sorenson.

So... You are able to upgrade the secondary significantly and STILL have all that cap room. This would be a fantastic move!
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:51 AM   #138
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but if they suddenly had a capable slot, and fuller is better on the boundry than ward do you not do it?
Yup.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:53 AM   #139
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With Terez and whats his face making their comments about them freeing up the cap space, i think they'll do something.

Fitzpatrick may not be it, but damn he's just such great value, even at a 2nd.

It's a move Howie Roseman would and may end up making.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:54 AM   #140
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Exactly, obtaining Fitzpatrick doesnt even effect the salary cap as they would need to cut someone to make room for him so the difference in salary cap is minimal, maybe even less if they cut someone like Sorenson.

So... You are able to upgrade the secondary significantly and STILL have all that cap room. This would be a fantastic move!
I think it’s a no brainer from that perspective. It really just comes down to what you have to give up to get him.

My fear is that the Tunsil trade inflated their idea of what their players are worth. Can’t say I blame them either.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:54 AM   #141
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:55 AM   #142
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Absolutely. Unfortunately that’s true of every team in the league not based in Miami. I just don’t see it happening.

And for me personally I just don’t see it as a huge need. Im not as down on the backfield as most.
I'll be down on it while I watch Ward play zone like he doesn't even understand zone principles.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:56 AM   #143
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Folks in Jax are thinking they might get him too. That's just the 2 teams I follow. Will be competition.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:57 AM   #144
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I'll be down on it while I watch Ward play zone like he doesn't even understand zone principles.
Claiborne will be starting shortly after he comes back. Him, Breeland, and Fuller are a pretty good trio. A lot better than people think.
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Old 09-13-2019, 08:58 AM   #145
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Absolutely. Unfortunately that’s true of every team in the league not based in Miami. I just don’t see it happening.

And for me personally I just don’t see it as a huge need. Im not as down on the backfield as most.
I'm not panicked about the secondary. I see it as respectable, especially once Claiborne gets back.

I'm more looking at the future and cap situation. I see a #11 pick who's proven to be a good player, who's scheme and position flexible in year two of his rookie deal that allows you options when all of the rest of these contracts come due.
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:01 AM   #146
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I'm not panicked about the secondary. I see it as respectable, especially once Claiborne gets back.

I'm more looking at the future and cap situation. I see a #11 pick who's proven to be a good player, who's scheme and position flexible in year two of his rookie deal that allows you options when all of the rest of these contracts come due.
Don’t get me wrong. I’d love Fitzpatrick. So would every other team in the league. I just don’t see it happening.
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:03 AM   #147
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You set a bar and don’t go over it here if you’re Veach. No need to panic like BOB and give up a stupid amount of compensation.

If it doesn’t work out, see what you have with Claiborne and explore PP.
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:04 AM   #148
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You set a bar and don’t go over it here if you’re Veach. No need to panic like BOB and give up a stupid amount of compensation.

If it doesn’t work out, see what you have with Claiborne and explore PP.
Yes.
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You set a bar and don’t go over it here if you’re Veach. No need to panic like BOB and give up a stupid amount of compensation.

If it doesn’t work out, see what you have with Claiborne and explore PP.

I agree. I just think the bar for me would be #32 and maybe a fourth.

I think it's totally worth it.
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