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Old 03-26-2020, 09:59 PM  
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Who's the better President? Lincoln, or Trump?

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I dont think he's greater than George Washington, yet. So far, I give him the edge on Lincoln for the fact an open civil war didn't break out yet. Hard for me to come up with another who compares to these three.
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Old 03-28-2020, 06:55 PM   #166
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Is that Herm?
It looks like him, doesn't it!!
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Old 03-28-2020, 06:59 PM   #167
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That makes me curious about your stance on the southern border

And what about Lincolns decision to send top quality American northern boys to war? I believe we are chasing our tail here. You are saying the cause was so important it was justified? When he could have saved every life on both sides?
Southern border? Immigration law should be enforced; unfortunately, the feds have screwed the pooch on that. Either we should enforce the border, OR we should change immigration law. We do neither.

When George W. tried, partisan Dems couldn't give him a victory, so they stonewalled it. Now that extreme nationalist dogma has taken over the GOP, partisan Dems are demagoguing the debate toward, essentially, what W. was willing to do in the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007--but the GOP cries "open borders!" As usual, the solution is in the middle; change the law, but then enforce the law. However, compromise and consensus are now heresy. Hence, the impasse.

The answer to the second part in post #158

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Old 03-28-2020, 07:50 PM   #168
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Didn't Lincoln himself put that theory to rest? I need to try and google that though. I could be wrong there.

My personal belief is yes, but that doesn't hold any water here.
What theory?
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Old 03-28-2020, 07:53 PM   #169
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What theory?
I'm out man. You win

I've said my piece. Gonna just drink some beer and enjoy the evening
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Old 03-28-2020, 07:55 PM   #170
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I've said my piece. Gonna just drink some beer and enjoy the evening
Read the constitution whole you're doing enjoying that beer, it's got some interesting takes on states rights and the role of federalism
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Old 03-28-2020, 08:06 PM   #171
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Read the constitution whole you're doing enjoying that beer, it's got some interesting takes on states rights and the role of federalism
Not gonna happen. I'm done thinking tonight. But this statement from you does strike up an interesting discussion
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Old 03-28-2020, 08:15 PM   #172
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Why should those in the south who fought a war against this country still get to be called Americans?
uh, you do know where Arlington Cemetery came from, right?

today's dems do nothing but divide the country.
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Old 03-29-2020, 01:31 PM   #173
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