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Old 09-21-2018, 08:58 AM   #2
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They will undoubtedly restructure. This offseason is the perfect time to do it. It's a win for both the Chiefs and Houston. Houston would rather get paid less for a protected contract.
Restructure just means moving around money to future years to save money in the current year. I assume you mean renegotiate a reduced contract?
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:30 AM   #3
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Restructure just means moving around money to future years to save money in the current year. I assume you mean renegotiate a reduced contract?
To a large extent yes. But I doubt Houston would allow that. You'd have to extend the contract with the current contract in mind. I would guess we'd want to extend the years. Basically take his current contract and convert into bonus. For example... You could basically buy out his current contract for a $30m signing bonus over 5 years then pay significantly less base salary. The goal is to take his current expensive contract and spread it out over a longer time. Win win.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:17 AM   #4
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They will undoubtedly restructure. This offseason is the perfect time to do it. It's a win for both the Chiefs and Houston. Houston would rather get paid less for a protected contract.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:10 PM   #5
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They will undoubtedly restructure. This offseason is the perfect time to do it. It's a win for both the Chiefs and Houston. Houston would rather get paid less for a protected contract.
No.

A restructure means that we tie Houston up even longer with his salary cap hit. He can take a pay cut since he isn't worth even close to what he is getting paid but no restructure.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:34 PM   #6
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No.

A restructure means that we tie Houston up even longer with his salary cap hit. He can take a pay cut since he isn't worth even close to what he is getting paid but no restructure.
Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit.
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Old 09-21-2018, 02:40 PM   #7
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Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit.
Lowers the cap hit in the current season. It still pushes that money into later seasons. Restructuring just makes the cap hit higher later.
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:07 PM   #8
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Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit.
Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit but doesn't lower the amount of money the player is paid or how much he counts against the cap? All a restructure does is push the salary cap hit a few years later and almost always makes the hit worse.
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:17 PM   #9
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Why do people have such a hard time understanding that a restructure LOWERS the cap hit but doesn't lower the amount of money the player is paid or how much he counts against the cap? All a restructure does is push the salary cap hit a few years later and almost always makes the hit worse.
It can lower the cap hit next year, and while it would raise the cap hit in later years, the high water mark comes down. You can go from a 20 million dollar cap hit for the next year to like 10-13 a year for the next three, which frankly I think he’s worth.
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:22 PM   #10
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It can lower the cap hit this year, and while it would raise he cap hit in later years, the high water mark comes down. You can go from a 20 million dollar cap hit for the next two years to like 13 a year for the next four, which frankly I think he’s worth.
Often times a restructure doesn't add additional years. It usually just means taking a portion of the base salary and converting it to a bonus so that it can be spread out over multiple years.
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:24 PM   #11
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Often times a restructure doesn't add additional years. It usually just means taking a portion of the base salary and converting it to a bonus so that it can be spread out over multiple years.
That must be the disconnect. I am talking about an extension and conversion of salary to bonus, with lower annual salary to bring the cap hit down.
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Old 09-21-2018, 03:23 PM   #12
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It can lower the cap hit next year, and while it would raise the cap hit in later years, the high water mark comes down. You can go from a 20 million dollar cap hit for the next year to like 10-13 a year for the next three, which frankly I think he’s worth.
This defense needs a complete rebuild. That's still too much.

Not only is he not himself and on the backside of a severe injury, he's almost 30 years old. Good teams don't keep players like him.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:35 PM   #13
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This defense needs a complete rebuild. That's still too much.

Not only is he not himself and on the backside of a severe injury, he's almost 30 years old. Good teams don't keep players like him.
I think at this point, in my opinion, keep Houston for 2019, let Ford go, and draft a OLB or find one on the FA. Then in 2020, that will depends how Houston performs in 2019. If he performs well in 2019, then keep him on until 2020 (to buy you some more time to find his replacement(s))

While Houston isn't the premier pass rusher like he used to be, he's not worthless by any means of the imagination. Also, he's better rounded OLB than Ford is, and Ford is only a one trick pony.

And this is just an assumption. But if Houston, for all intents and purposes, does look done, then I could see the Chiefs extending Ford, and designate Houston as a post 6/1.

The only scenario I could see that Houston and Ford being gone is if there is a new DC and new defensive scheme.

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Old 09-21-2018, 05:54 PM   #14
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I'd like to see a combination of a new Defensive Coordinator + Scheme, and Justin Houston & Eric Berry restructure. I'd also add another all defensive draft in 2019.
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Old 09-21-2018, 06:07 PM   #15
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I'd like to see a combination of a new Defensive Coordinator + Scheme, and Justin Houston & Eric Berry restructure. I'd also add another all defensive draft in 2019.
I'd be fine with that, except for a center should be taken somewhere in rounds 2-3. I don't want to sink money into Morse.
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