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Old 06-22-2021, 04:30 PM   Topic Starter
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Why are Rivers and Eli HOF candidates?
Just hearing this garbage about these guys is annoying as hell. Why do they get to get in?

What has Rivers done besides stat padding?

Eli never had an all pro season, never had a QB rating higher than 94 and won all of his postseason games with defenses that gave up 21 or less points.

Is the HOF really going this soft? Will they literally let just anyone that’s played forever in?
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Old 06-22-2021, 04:35 PM   #2
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Old 06-22-2021, 04:36 PM   #3
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Old 06-22-2021, 04:40 PM   #4
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Old 06-22-2021, 04:44 PM   #5
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Old 06-22-2021, 04:48 PM   #6
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Eli should, Rivers shouldn’t. Rivers can be in the hall of good.
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Old 06-22-2021, 04:48 PM   #7
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Eli was the QB of 2 super bowl winners, including one being an historic comeback against a (previously) 18-0 team.

Rivers is well inside the top 10 of pretty much every passing category there is.

Nitpick all you want, but electing those guys is not the "NFL going soft". There are many more questionable picks already in the Hall than those guys.
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Old 06-22-2021, 04:55 PM   #8
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Eli has 2 rings.

Rivers is his generation’s Marino.

Pretty simple.
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Eli has 2 rings.
So does Phil Simms.
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Old 06-22-2021, 05:40 PM   #10
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Eli has 2 rings.

Rivers is his generation’s Marino.

Pretty simple.
Except he wasn't half as talented as Marino.
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Old 06-22-2021, 10:32 PM   #11
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Eli has 2 rings.

Rivers is his generation’s Marino.

Pretty simple.
Oh, I wouldn't go that far with Rivers. He was no Dan Marino.

If Rivers gets in, the I guess the floodgates will open for other non-deserving QB's like Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford (at least to date - maybe he'll do something with the Rams but until he does, he's just another guy with a bunch of stats).

I really hope the writers are smart enough to see that while Rivers has big numbers, he was never able to put the Chargers on his back and will his team to a significant victory, even while playing next to two other Hall of Famers in Tomlinson and Gates.

As for Eli, the dude won two Super Bowls for the New York Giants. He's a shoo-in.
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Old 06-22-2021, 11:14 PM   #12
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Oh, I wouldn't go that far with Rivers. He was no Dan Marino.

If Rivers gets in, the I guess the floodgates will open for other non-deserving QB's like Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford (at least to date - maybe he'll do something with the Rams but until he does, he's just another guy with a bunch of stats).

I really hope the writers are smart enough to see that while Rivers has big numbers, he was never able to put the Chargers on his back and will his team to a significant victory, even while playing next to two other Hall of Famers in Tomlinson and Gates.

As for Eli, the dude won two Super Bowls for the New York Giants. He's a shoo-in.
I’d have to do some number crunching so I’ll revisit this post in like 2 or 3 days-going out of town-but Rivers was a phenomenal QB who literally got the wrong results in the postseason similar to Marino.

The 2006 loss to the Patriots was in large part due to an incredibly fluke fumble on an interception return that Marty wasted his last timeout on an unsuccessful challenge in addition to Kaeding shitting the bed

He went toe to toe with the 2007 Patriots on a torn ACL in the AFC Championship game in Foxboro.

Yes, his team didn’t make the SB, took advantage of a down AFC West for like 5 years, but he still played at a high level.

Ryan’s probably in for longevity along with multiple PO appearances and a MVP. Stafford is similar caliber of him but was stuck in Detroit.
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Old 06-22-2021, 11:35 PM   #13
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There's going to have to be a new more stringent benchmark for QBs in the HOF. QB play used to boil down to throwing more TDs than INTs in a season, and the guys who did that consistently got in the HOF (and they also had to win Super Bowls and/or have legendary and lengthy careers).

It's pretty easy for any asshat these days to meet those standards, so the NFL HOF is going to have to start being choosy. Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers, and Matt Stafford all have HOF career numbers, but you're going to put all three of those guys in the hall? You start doing that and pretty soon you won't have room for any of the other legendary players at other positions.

You keep going down this path and it becomes a slippery slope to putting Kirk Cousins, Ryan Tannehill, Derek Carr, and Cam Newton in the hall, too.

It's gotta stop at some point. Draw the line and mark it clearly for ****'s sake.
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I’d have to do some number crunching so I’ll revisit this post in like 2 or 3 days-going out of town-but Rivers was a phenomenal QB who literally got the wrong results in the postseason similar to Marino.

The 2006 loss to the Patriots was in large part due to an incredibly fluke fumble on an interception return that Marty wasted his last timeout on an unsuccessful challenge in addition to Kaeding shitting the bed

He went toe to toe with the 2007 Patriots on a torn ACL in the AFC Championship game in Foxboro.

Yes, his team didn’t make the SB, took advantage of a down AFC West for like 5 years, but he still played at a high level.

Ryan’s probably in for longevity along with multiple PO appearances and a MVP. Stafford is similar caliber of him but was stuck in Detroit.
In short, cornerbacks and safeties could all but mug receivers in Marino's era, whereas one wrong look could be called for a penalty during Rivers' era.

And trust me, Rivers got a lot those calls.
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