***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[2112]

Originally Posted by Indian Chief

I know you live in NJ like me so you'll get this. The biggest issue in NJ was the sheer number of people that commute from the state into NYC for work. Look at the NJ counties that are the worst -- Bergen, Essex, Union, Hudson, etc. Everything bordering NY, where high numbers of commuters live. It took too long to put a stop to that and the city spilled into the neighboring state.

Agree 100% And most of them take mass transit (bus or train) which is the perfect storm for passing it on. Think about it, not just the subways, but path trains, nj transit trains and all those buses. You know they were never cleaned or wiped down the trains and buses. It would be an impossible task.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

https://twitter.com/michaelcoudrey/s...737440768?s=21

Someone embed for me

BREAKING: French government reverses earlier ban on hydroxychloroquine for treating COVID19 patients in light of successful clinical studies showing significant efficacy against the virus.

Hydroxychloroquine may now be prescribed to treat COVID-19 in France.

— Michael Coudrey (@MichaelCoudrey) March 28, 2020

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Tnerped

Wouldn't worry about your mail too much. We're dealing with thousands of packages and letters a day and we're still not sick. I think you'd really only need to worry if you were in an area where there are a lot of sick people already. We keep the office relatively sanitized and all of our employees are practicing social distancing. We had one guy go to Florida and he's now in quarantine in his home for another week.

Luckily only one case in the county I work in and I go straight home after work.

I buy my vitamins online and I have a shipment coming in the next couple of days. From New York. I feel like a tard but I find it a little scary.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by eDave

I'd rather die.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by petegz28

BREAKING: French government reverses earlier ban on hydroxychloroquine for treating COVID19 patients in light of successful clinical studies showing significant efficacy against the virus.

Hydroxychloroquine may now be prescribed to treat COVID-19 in France.

— Michael Coudrey (@MichaelCoudrey) March 28, 2020

Thank you,

When will we reverse course and start pumping this stuff out!

[TLO]

in light of successful clinical studies showing significant efficacy against the virus.

Show us the studies!

[Tnerped]

Originally Posted by philfree

I buy my vitamins online and I have a shipment coming in the next couple of days. From New York. I feel like a tard but I find it a little scary.

Just like I find working here scary. Like I said, at least no one in this town has it YET, but I'm sure it'll come eventually. Hopefully when it does, I'll know before getting it myself and just use up my leave for a few weeks.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Thank you,

When will we reverse course and start pumping this stuff out!

What do we need to reverse?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by wazu

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!! ****. That.

Originally Posted by TLO

No, I don't think that's a good idea at all.

Originally Posted by Donger

They can suspend flight operations. But they shouldn't, perhaps can't, lockdown the country. Let the states do that.

Yeah it sucks I know just don't know how else we are going to slow the spread without ALL states being told to shelter in place and keep infected people from flying around to other states.

[oaklandhater]

Families of NYers who die from this virus should file a large civil suit against these monsters who encouraged sick people in New York to spread the virus to as many others as they can pic.twitter.com/NisCD2Y80g

— Benny (@bennyjohnson) March 28, 2020

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Thank you,

When will we reverse course and start pumping this stuff out!

I'm not sure how much I would read into that tweet. It already is approved here.

"If you're a doctor listening to me right now and a patient with coronavirus feels like they want to try that," Stigall asked, "and you're their doctor, you're not Anthony Fauci the guy running the coronavirus task force, would you say 'alright, we'll give it a whirl'?

"Yeah, of course, particularly if people have no other option," Fauci said. "These drugs are approved drugs for other reasons. They're anti-malaria drugs, and they're drugs against certain autoimmune diseases like lupus. Physicians throughout the country can prescribe that in an off-label way. Which means they can write it for something it was not approved for."

They are still studying it and seeing how effective it is against CoronaVirus from what I understand. Clearly, more tests need to be done.

https://townhall.com/columnists/larr...vid19-n2565678

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by O.city

Viruses never mutate to more virulent forms. It would be to their detriment.

Hmmm, learn something new every day.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I'm not sure how much I would read into that tweet. It already is approved here.

"If you're a doctor listening to me right now and a patient with coronavirus feels like they want to try that," Stigall asked, "and you're their doctor, you're not Anthony Fauci the guy running the coronavirus task force, would you say 'alright, we'll give it a whirl'?

"Yeah, of course, particularly if people have no other option," Fauci said. "These drugs are approved drugs for other reasons. They're anti-malaria drugs, and they're drugs against certain autoimmune diseases like lupus. Physicians throughout the country can prescribe that in an off-label way. Which means they can write it for something it was not approved for."

They are still studying it from what I understand. More tests need to be done.

https://townhall.com/columnists/larr...vid19-n2565678

NY, NV and MI have all banned it I do believe.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

it took Italy 4 days to go from 1,000 to 2,000 deaths, whereas the U.S. just did it in 3 days.

The coronavirus death toll in the U.S. has surpassed 2,000. More than 120,000 confirmed cases https://t.co/47MXF0XUJ0

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) March 28, 2020

still waiting for that shutdown...

Much smaller popularion

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Honestly the best way to combat the spread is to start telling true stories (so it's going to be hard for the media to pull off) of people who died, especially people who were healthier and younger.

I guarantee you there are images and events occurring in the ICU and ER's of the USA that would shock the hell out of people if they could see the images or film.

Thats going to be hard to get out though because of HIPPA regulations and medical ethics. There has been discussion of getting the patients to sign a waiver but that doesn't get too far because they are considered at the mercy of the care. They will agree to anything to keep getting care even if stopping care is an unfounded concern.

Video is what changes or moves public opinions these days.