***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Independence has some of the best drinking water in America. It comes from deep limestone wells and is NOT Missouri River water. If you've ever been somewhere that the tap water reeks, you appreciate quality tap water.

http://www.ci.independence.mo.us/Water/WaterQuality

So does Springfield, in my experience. It must be the same kinda deal.

We used to drive up from Texas every summer and I would notice it immediately.

Big city water in Texas tastes like sewer runoff unless you filter it.

[RINGLEADER]

New York slowly ticking up in total cases though the increase is still slower than many expected. Unfortunately a New Yorker is dying, on average, once every 12 minutes from coronavirus.

The coronavirus has infected 26,697 and hospitalized 5,250 people in New York City and the number of patients requiring ICU treatment rose significantly over the last 24 hours. A total of 1,175 patients are in ICUs, a 37.6 percent rise from the 850 that needed such care as of Thursday evening. Seems to be settling into the 20% hospitalized and 25% of those hospitalized patients needing ventilators that were the averages quoted early on.

Only saving grace is that new infections are staying in a approx 5K-6K band rather than continuing to rise day over day.

[stumppy]

Springfield water comes form two different lakes. McDaniel Lake and Stockton Lake.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Springfield water comes form two different lakes. McDaniel Lake and Stockton Lake.

Is this better than river water?

[Discuss Thrower]

Spoiler!

[philfree]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Springfield water comes form two different lakes. McDaniel Lake and Stockton Lake.

Stockton Lake is 50 miles away but after a little research that's not wrong.

https://watershedcommittee.org/educa...ter-come-from/

Approximately 80 percent of Springfield’s drinking water comes from surface waters (lakes, rivers) and the rest from ground water (wells, spring). City Utilities’ Fulbright and Blackman Water Treatment Plants use a combination of sources for water treatment, including both surface and ground water. Fulbright is located on the northern edge of Springfield and is served by Fulbright Spring, the original source for the city, along with a deep well and McDaniel Lake. The Blackman plant is in the southeastern corner of the city and receives water from Fellows Lake, Stockton Lake and/or the James River.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Is this better than river water?

Oh hell no. We send you our finest every day

[mr. tegu]

I love our Johnson County water. I have no idea where it comes from though.

[RINGLEADER]

Italy has 5,974 new cases and 889 new deaths. They thought they’d peak last weekend. Still a ways to go.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Spoiler!

Mother ****ing pieces of shit. They should have to repay those dollars to the individual and should not be allowed to obtain any of the stimulus. Then they should be fined immensely.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Italy has 5,974 new cases and 889 new deaths. They thought they’d peak last weekend.

Their new cases seem to have

Deaths are about 10-14 days behind

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Is this better than river water?

not if it isn't treated at a plant.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Trump considering short term quarantine of NY, NJ and Connecticut

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ey-connecticut

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by O.city

Their new cases seem to have

Deaths are about 10-14 days behind

Yep — their deaths are going to be around 1000-1500 for the next couple weeks at least.

They went over 10,000 deaths today. Sad.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Trump considering short term quarantine of NY, NJ and Connecticut

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ey-connecticut

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