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**DaneMcCloud** · 11-22-2008, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Boon

I am not arguing, but why did you think so?

Let me guess:

You didn't figure out that Harrison Ford's character in "Blade Runner" was an android, did you?

Boon · 11-22-2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Let me guess:

You didn't figure out that Harrison Ford's character in "Blade Runner" was an android, did you?

Didn't see it, so I don't get the reference.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-22-2008, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Boon

Didn't see it, so I don't get the reference.

And you call yourself an American?

Boon · 11-22-2008, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And you call yourself an American?

Where'd I do that?

**J Diddy** · 11-22-2008, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And you call yourself an American?

We all ain't got them fancy houses with them vcrs.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-22-2008, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

We all ain't got them fancy houses with them vcrs.

**007** · 11-22-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Let me guess:

You didn't figure out that Harrison Ford's character in "Blade Runner" was an android, did you?

Nor did he ever see the unicorn.

Brock · 11-22-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Let me guess:

You didn't figure out that Harrison Ford's character in "Blade Runner" was an android, did you?

This is the first time I've ever heard that.

Thig Lyfe · 11-22-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Boon

I am not arguing, but why did you think so?

Because it was the perfect bookend to the film and ties together the real theme of the movie. If you'll recall, the first few minutes of the film is just shots of landscape as Sheriff Bell tells a story about a murderer who says, before he's about to be executed, that he would have done it again if given the chance. Bell wonders how you stop that kind of evil. He wonders if it's really worth trying.

(Spoiler alert for those who haven't seen the movie yet)

At the end, Anton has gotten away with the money. All the good guys died. Evil wasn't stopped, despite Bell's efforts. All the pursuit was ultimately for naught. So Bell retires. And it ends much the way it began: with Bell telling a story.

The entire movie is a misdirection, really. You think it's about Moss and Anton and the money. It's really about Bell. It's about an aging lawman who comes to the cold realization that he's been fighting a futile battle all these years. It's about following his dad to the camp, to peace. The dreams he describes occurred because of this realization, because of his decision to retire.

Now, from what I've read this is extremely faithful to the book. So it's not like the Coens made some wacky decision to end it weird. It was a part of the book, and it was vital to the completion of the film. No other ending would have worked the way this ending did.

(I loved the end of Burn After Reading for much of the same kinds of reasons. It exemplified the "much ado about nothing" nature of the film, and was the perfectly frivolous ending to a story about frivolous people doing frivolous things.)

**J Diddy** · 11-22-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Because it was the perfect bookend to the film and ties together the real theme of the movie. If you'll recall, the first few minutes of the film is just shots of landscape as Sheriff Bell tells a story about a murderer who says, before he's about to be executed, that he would have done it again if given the chance. Bell wonders how you stop that kind of evil. He wonders if it's really worth trying.

(Spoiler alert for those who haven't seen the movie yet)

At the end, Anton has gotten away with the money. All the good guys died. Evil wasn't stopped, despite Bell's efforts. All the pursuit was ultimately for naught. So Bell retires. And it ends much the way it began: with Bell telling a story.

The entire movie is a misdirection, really. You think it's about Moss and Anton and the money. It's really about Bell. It's about an aging lawman who comes to the cold realization that he's been fighting a futile battle all these years. It's about following his dad to the camp, to peace. The dreams he describes occurred because of this realization, because of his decision to retire.

Now, from what I've read this is extremely faithful to the book. So it's not like the Coens made some wacky decision to end it weird. It was a part of the book, and it was vital to the completion of the film. No other ending would have worked the way this ending did.

(I loved the end of Burn After Reading for much of the same kinds of reasons. It exemplified the "much ado about nothing" nature of the film, and was the perfectly frivolous ending to a story about frivolous people doing frivolous things.)

Yeah, screw that. The problem I have with that is for the majority of the film he wasn't involved. I had no connection to him. Seemed like the beginning and the end he was there.

ragedogg69 · 11-22-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Now, from what I've read this is extremely faithful to the book. So it's not like the Coens made some wacky decision to end it weird. It was a part of the book, and it was vital to the completion of the film. No other ending would have worked the way this ending did.

Its a very un-hollywood ending that is for sure. The problem is the author (McCarther?) is notorious for have slow build up through out his stories with very disappointing endings. Like you want to burn the book its so maddening.

The Road is the same way. except you have a little kid through out the story annoying the shit out of you. Look for that hitting theaters next year. I will avoid it like the plague.

Not a problem with the Coen Brothers, they are good storytellers, but they had a horrible story to work with in NCFOM.

raybec 4 · 11-22-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ragedogg69

Its a very un-hollywood ending that is for sure. The problem is the author (McCarther?) is notorious for have slow build up through out his stories with very disappointing endings. Like you want to burn the book its so maddening.

The Road is the same way. except you have a little kid through out the story annoying the shit out of you. Look for that hitting theaters next year. I will avoid it like the plague.

Not a problem with the Coen Brothers, they are good storytellers, but they had a horrible story to work with in NCFOM.

The onlr real problem I had with "The Road" is nobody has a ****ing name, what the **** is that about?

Delano · 11-22-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ragedogg69

Its a very un-hollywood ending that is for sure. The problem is the author (McCarther?) is notorious for have slow build up through out his stories with very disappointing endings. Like you want to burn the book its so maddening.

The Road is the same way. except you have a little kid through out the story annoying the shit out of you. Look for that hitting theaters next year. I will avoid it like the plague.

Not a problem with the Coen Brothers, they are good storytellers, but they had a horrible story to work with in NCFOM.

If you don't have compassion for that little boy, you don't have a soul. Annoying? Please...

Fairplay · 11-22-2008, 10:16 AM

The ending did take me off guard for a few moments.

But after thinking about it. I thought it was a good ending.

I also thought, that along with the title of the movie, it was about the sheriff and the changes going on that he ultimately can't control.

Like Otter said, it's not a typical dumbed down ending Hollywood style. At that is what i found most people complaining about.

11-22-2008, 10:16 AM	#15
Fairplay A certain set of skills Fairplay's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: texas	The ending did take me off guard for a few moments. But after thinking about it. I thought it was a good ending. I also thought, that along with the title of the movie, it was about the sheriff and the changes going on that he ultimately can't control. Like Otter said, it's not a typical dumbed down ending Hollywood style. At that is what i found most people complaining about.
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