***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

Oh well yeah, that's just a given.

So real conversation, what is the worst thing you've ever seen?

[O.city]

I was gonna say, I actually would be a bit better off if OTWP went ahead and followed the light.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Not me either....and I did direct deposit and bank with a rather large bank so yea.

They haven't even set up the portal to change the DD info yet AFAIK

Won't surprise me one bit if nobody gets it this week.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So real conversation, what is the worst thing you've ever seen?

Damn, tough question.

I had a 7 year old with bilateral abscesses in dental school that hadn't been able to eat for a month or so. That was tough.

One guy brushed his teeth with comet cleaner because...I don't remember the reason. That was interesting.

I had an amish patient that tried to let some random guy pull a tooth and fractured the entire roof of his mouth.

One of my kids i'm doing braces on got landed on and smashed his face all up. I dunno, lots to chose from

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Not me either....and I did direct deposit and bank with a rather large bank so yea.

Same,

I filed in February too so I would guess I would be part of first wave.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

They haven't even set up the portal to change the DD info yet AFAIK

Won't surprise me one bit if nobody gets it this week.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...15/2971312001/

https://www.news4jax.com/news/mornin...-checks-today/

They are saying that 50 Million could be receiving today.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

Damn, tough question.

I had a 7 year old with bilateral abscesses in dental school that hadn't been able to eat for a month or so. That was tough.

One guy brushed his teeth with comet cleaner because...I don't remember the reason. That was interesting.

I had an amish patient that tried to let some random guy pull a tooth and fractured the entire roof of his mouth.

One of my kids i'm doing braces on got landed on and smashed his face all up. I dunno, lots to chose from

I love when my patients ask me if I can narrow down the date of conception to the Friday night or Saturday morning.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Same,

I filed in February too so I would guess I would be part of first wave.

I did too, I got my return like the last day of February, had to wait a couple weeks because of EIC.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

Damn, tough question.

I had a 7 year old with bilateral abscesses in dental school that hadn't been able to eat for a month or so. That was tough.

One guy brushed his teeth with comet cleaner because...I don't remember the reason. That was interesting.

I had an amish patient that tried to let some random guy pull a tooth and fractured the entire roof of his mouth.

One of my kids i'm doing braces on got landed on and smashed his face all up. I dunno, lots to chose from

You know what I always wonder......how much it must suck to have a tooth pulled that's broken off at the gumline, like that fool from Tiger King.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That mixed with hospitals in rural areas closing is going to be a real problem.

I live in a very rural area of Missouri. My "town" has about 50 people in it and there has been 4 confirmed cases in the last week.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

No doubt.

This comes back to knowing who the hell actually has it for starters.

We don't have anywhere near enough information at this point to just start letting people roam around.

I think the rapid test will be the key to this.

[BryanBusby]

Think it'll get dispersed depending on how poor you are. The more poor you are, earlier you get it but this is definitely not going to go on schedule.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by O.city

I've been training my innate immune system for years to attack upon my command. I just think about it and I can get NKC's and Macrophages to attack. I can ramp up mitochondria to produce fast energy and responses.

I'm writing a book on it.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I think you should go hang out at 88 and Marcellus houses since they are so convinced this shit is stupid.

First off I have never said this is stupid and secondly he is welcome to come over.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Think it'll get dispersed depending on how poor you are. The more poor you are, earlier you get it but this is definitely not going to go on schedule.

Actually that only account for the people who need physical checks it seems.

As there would be no reason for anyone that the IRS has DD information for.