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duncan_idaho · 04-06-2018, 09:18 PM

The season is upon us, even if spring is not.

2018 MLB Draft Picks
#18
#33 - Compensation (Eric Hosmer)
#34 - Compensation (Lorenzo Cain)
#40 (Competitive Balance Round A)

018 Draft Names to Watch

RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia.

Spoiler!

OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI

Spoiler!

1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL).

Spoiler!

RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga).

Spoiler!

ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida.

Current Prospects to Watch:

OF Seuly Matias - Huge tools. Hit 2 HR in Lexington (A) season opener.

1B Nick Pratto - Top pick in 17 has advanced approach and good glove; needs to start tapping into power in first full year in minors. Also at Lexington.

OF Michael Gigliotti - Good defender in CF, good OBP skills, plus baserunner. Next mainstay in CF for KC, IMO. Advanced college bat also starting at Lexington.

OF Khalil Lee - Probably has highest upside in Royals' system. Could hit 30 HR in majors, could steal 30 bases. Plus defensive ability in RF. Nice test at Wilmington this year.

3B Emmanuel Rivera - Really nice approach and good contact skills. Power is still developing. Also getting a good test at Wilmington.

SP Foster Griffin - Made nice strides in 2017. Needs to continue to progress in 2018. Could be a lefty version of Jakob Junis (good breaking ball that he can really manipulate, OK fastball, good command).

1B Samir Duenez - Duenez still is intriguing, hoping for a step forward in his power production this year at Northwest Arkansas, which would turn him into a legit prospect.

Others to keep an eye on:
SP Gerson Garabito (Wilmington), OF Marten Gasparini (Lexington), C MJ Melendez (Lexington), RP Tyler Zuber (lexington), RP Richard Lovelady (Omaha), SP Dan Tillo (Lexington), SS Nicky Lopez (NWA), SP Scott Blewett (NWA), OF Brewer Hicklen (Idaho Falls),

In general, Lexington and Wilmington are the most interesting spots to watch. Nice depth and a lot of interesting pieces at both.

Chiefspants · 08-08-2018, 10:07 AM

Felix Hernandez officially became the worst qualified starter in the majors yesterday.

I'm hopeful he can have a Verlander/Greinke like resurgence.

Chiefspants · 08-08-2018, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

I don’t think Dayton Moore is a good GM, even with the jewelry, and my evidence is his own words, his own thinking, his own transactions. The Royals are going to wander until he’s let go."

GMDM is not perfect, but taking his words at face-value is the most basic and elementary mistake to make when evaluating him as a GM. It's why national analysts so often misread and underestimate him.

And something tells me GMDM prefers it that way.

siberian khatru · 08-08-2018, 11:56 AM

What's so goddamn frustrating about the last two lineups is that it's Ned contradicting himself.

Early in Esky's career, Ned refused to pinch-hit for him in late-game pressure situations because he said it was crucial to his development -- he needed to "learn to hit" in those circumstances.

Now, he sits O'Hearn and Phillips against LHP because, apparently, he's afraid that starting them will reerun their development or something. This from a guy who is about as anti-platoon as you can find. Yet, now he thinks it's important to play Drew Butera -- DREW BUTERA -- at first base TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW to protect a young hitter. If those guys can't learn on the job in a season like this, when will they?

And I won't even get into the madness that is accepting lower-quality prospects rather than eating salary when trading good players, while forking over hundreds of thousands of dollars in plate-appearance bonus money to a really shitty player in Esky.

WhawhaWhat · 08-08-2018, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

If those guys can't learn on the job in a season like this, when will they?

Uhh.. next season.

duncan_idaho · 08-08-2018, 12:23 PM

I like Joe Sheehan a bunch, but he misses the mark on a few things he said there.

First, let’s revisit his comments about the Shields/Davis trade. They did not spend 16 months trying to turn Davis into a starter.

They spent 3-4. He moved to the bullpen late in 13 and was in the bullpen to start 2014. They talked about him having a floor of being a high-value reliever. So that didn’t come out of nowhere.

Second, saying those two trades are the only things Moore has done overlooks the overhaul of the farm system from complete laughing stock to an elite system that was one of the best in recent memory.

Third, as pointed out, it takes something Moore said at face value. Which we know is folly.

siberian khatru · 08-08-2018, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Uhh.. next season.

Why wait til then?

Fansy the Famous Bard · 08-08-2018, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Uhh.. next season.

I'm not convinced this regime will play them even then. Look for esky to be re-signed yet again.

WhawhaWhat · 08-08-2018, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Why wait til then?

Why not both? There are plenty of games left this season and next and the Royals will be competing in neither season. Sitting on the bench for 2 games isn't the end of the world.

Take a breather buddy. If they don't care about losing games, then you shouldn't be getting that worked up either.

Sure-Oz · 08-08-2018, 01:47 PM

SMH. I'm tired of Butera playing but atleast it's to give Salvy a day off. I don't see Duda getting traded.

@DBLesky: #Royals lineup vs. Quintana:

Merrifield 2B
Gordon LF
Perez DH
Dozier 3B
Duda 1B
Bonifacio RF
Phillips CF
Mondesi SS
Butera C
Fillmyer P

Fansy the Famous Bard · 08-08-2018, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

SMH. I'm tired of Butera playing but atleast it's to give Salvy a day off. I don't see Duda getting traded.

@DBLesky: #Royals lineup vs. Quintana:

Merrifield 2B
Gordon LF
Perez DH
Dozier 3B
Duda 1B
Bonifacio RF
Phillips CF
Mondesi SS
Butera C
Fillmyer P

That's a much more acceptable lineup, imo.

tk13 · 08-08-2018, 02:24 PM

Meanwhile, Kelvin Herrera was placed on the DL today. He has a 4.76 ERA and 6.03 FIP with Washington.

Chiefspants · 08-08-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Meanwhile, Kelvin Herrera was placed on the DL today. He has a 4.76 ERA and 6.03 FIP with Washington.

But GMDM lost that trade!!!

duncan_idaho · 08-08-2018, 02:32 PM

One other thing Sheehan was way off on:

The Royals farm should no longer be described as “terrible.”

It’s not a leading system, but it’s firmly in that second 12-20 range now.

It’s the Alex Smith of farm systems. With quite a bit of upside, actually.

WhawhaWhat · 08-08-2018, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It’s the Alex Smith of farm systems. With quite a bit of upside, actually.

So we'll be losing in the Wild Card game in no time!

dlphg9 · 08-08-2018, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

One other thing Sheehan was way off on:

The Royals farm should no longer be described as “terrible.”

It’s not a leading system, but it’s firmly in that second 12-20 range now.

It’s the Alex Smith of farm systems. With quite a bit of upside, actually.

Yeah farm system isn't too bad now. We have quite a few players that are looking real good. Crappy thing about it is that I'm not sure how many pitchers are having great seasons.

04-06-2018, 09:18 PM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U duncan_idaho's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City	* Official 2018 Royals Repository * The season is upon us, even if spring is not. 2018 MLB Draft Picks #18 #33 - Compensation (Eric Hosmer) #34 - Compensation (Lorenzo Cain) #40 (Competitive Balance Round A) 018 Draft Names to Watch RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia. Spoiler! Possibly goes top 10 but is a big, physical SP with ace potential. Moore and co. will be all over him if he slips a bit and could offer top 10 money at No. 16 OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI Spoiler! Kelenic is the top prep bat, toolsy OF. Royals would be ecstatic to have shot at him. 1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL). Spoiler! Tremendous raw power, best in HS bats. Royals typically like HS arms or HS bats with "special" tools. He qualifies. RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga). Spoiler! Another big, physical specimen with huge upside. More likely to be available mid-first than Rocker. ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida. Current Prospects to Watch: OF Seuly Matias - Huge tools. Hit 2 HR in Lexington (A) season opener. 1B Nick Pratto - Top pick in 17 has advanced approach and good glove; needs to start tapping into power in first full year in minors. Also at Lexington. OF Michael Gigliotti - Good defender in CF, good OBP skills, plus baserunner. Next mainstay in CF for KC, IMO. Advanced college bat also starting at Lexington. OF Khalil Lee - Probably has highest upside in Royals' system. Could hit 30 HR in majors, could steal 30 bases. Plus defensive ability in RF. Nice test at Wilmington this year. 3B Emmanuel Rivera - Really nice approach and good contact skills. Power is still developing. Also getting a good test at Wilmington. SP Foster Griffin - Made nice strides in 2017. Needs to continue to progress in 2018. Could be a lefty version of Jakob Junis (good breaking ball that he can really manipulate, OK fastball, good command). 1B Samir Duenez - Duenez still is intriguing, hoping for a step forward in his power production this year at Northwest Arkansas, which would turn him into a legit prospect. Others to keep an eye on: SP Gerson Garabito (Wilmington), OF Marten Gasparini (Lexington), C MJ Melendez (Lexington), RP Tyler Zuber (lexington), RP Richard Lovelady (Omaha), SP Dan Tillo (Lexington), SS Nicky Lopez (NWA), SP Scott Blewett (NWA), OF Brewer Hicklen (Idaho Falls), In general, Lexington and Wilmington are the most interesting spots to watch. Nice depth and a lot of interesting pieces at both.
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08-08-2018, 10:07 AM	#3556
Chiefspants World's Best Boss Chiefspants's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bronco Country	Felix Hernandez officially became the worst qualified starter in the majors yesterday. I'm hopeful he can have a Verlander/Greinke like resurgence.
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08-08-2018, 11:56 AM	#3558
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan siberian khatru's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium	What's so goddamn frustrating about the last two lineups is that it's Ned contradicting himself. Early in Esky's career, Ned refused to pinch-hit for him in late-game pressure situations because he said it was crucial to his development -- he needed to "learn to hit" in those circumstances. Now, he sits O'Hearn and Phillips against LHP because, apparently, he's afraid that starting them will reerun their development or something. This from a guy who is about as anti-platoon as you can find. Yet, now he thinks it's important to play Drew Butera -- DREW BUTERA -- at first base TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW to protect a young hitter. If those guys can't learn on the job in a season like this, when will they? And I won't even get into the madness that is accepting lower-quality prospects rather than eating salary when trading good players, while forking over hundreds of thousands of dollars in plate-appearance bonus money to a really shitty player in Esky.
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08-08-2018, 12:23 PM	#3560
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U duncan_idaho's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City	I like Joe Sheehan a bunch, but he misses the mark on a few things he said there. First, let’s revisit his comments about the Shields/Davis trade. They did not spend 16 months trying to turn Davis into a starter. They spent 3-4. He moved to the bullpen late in 13 and was in the bullpen to start 2014. They talked about him having a floor of being a high-value reliever. So that didn’t come out of nowhere. Second, saying those two trades are the only things Moore has done overlooks the overhaul of the farm system from complete laughing stock to an elite system that was one of the best in recent memory. Third, as pointed out, it takes something Moore said at face value. Which we know is folly.
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08-08-2018, 01:47 PM	#3564
Sure-Oz Stay positive, don't give up Sure-Oz's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2001	SMH. I'm tired of Butera playing but atleast it's to give Salvy a day off. I don't see Duda getting traded. @DBLesky: #Royals lineup vs. Quintana: Merrifield 2B Gordon LF Perez DH Dozier 3B Duda 1B Bonifacio RF Phillips CF Mondesi SS Butera C Fillmyer P
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08-08-2018, 02:24 PM	#3566
tk13 ... tk13's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2001	Meanwhile, Kelvin Herrera was placed on the DL today. He has a 4.76 ERA and 6.03 FIP with Washington.
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08-08-2018, 02:32 PM	#3568
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U duncan_idaho's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City	One other thing Sheehan was way off on: The Royals farm should no longer be described as “terrible.” It’s not a leading system, but it’s firmly in that second 12-20 range now. It’s the Alex Smith of farm systems. With quite a bit of upside, actually.
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