***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by DaFace

You can't ship milk, eggs, and vegetables. At least not easily.

I would love to help, but you're not giving me much to work with.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by DaFace

You can't ship milk, eggs, and vegetables. At least not easily.

So things are supposed to be easy during a pandemic? Come on. Send cereal. Send other non perishables. Plenty of vegetables will last a shipment as well.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Is liberty selfish?

In his example? Yes, clearly.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I would love to help, but you're not giving me much to work with.

well i've got a couple people to add to your delivery list if you're "helping out". you're not scared right?

[Monticore]

I am still not sure if they think that initial/overall exposure correlates to more severe symptoms, if so the lockdown while helping the spread may help with the severity as well. I guess we will know in the next little while.

[O.city]

I would help anyone that needs it.


accept Sauto. Cause **** that guy. Wont' get his cell phone fixed.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

this isnt about 'OUR FEAR" it's about the people in charge and their fears.

Those people in "Charge" still have this pesky document that tell em what they can and cannot do.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

well i've got a couple people to add to your delivery list if you're "helping out". you're not scared right?

Yeah I will help you grand parents out because it seems like it to much for you to get up and do.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

So things are supposed to be easy during a pandemic? Come on. Send cereal. Send other non perishables.

I'm not denying that there are solutions. I think it's a little odd to be arguing that people can't "infringe on your rights" (which are largely issues of inconvenience) by saying that others should have to deal with the inconvenience.

As I alluded to earlier, it's just interesting how much of a feeling there is with all of this that we just don't give a shit about it because it mainly impacts old people.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Those people in "Charge" still have this pesky document that tell em what they can and cannot do.

Isn't that document amendable? and maybe a little outdated?

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by DaFace

About 750. I suppose that, if things were opened up to the point that there was extremely high community spread, it might to come to that.

That's definitely small, my mom's is a little bigger, but not much. Do you, or your parents, know anyone in town to help? I've helped some of my older neighbors as well. Folks are glad to help. My mom gives the church an order, they tell her how much and she writes a check or puts the money in an envelope on her porch, and they leave the bags and the receipt there. I'm sure there's people willing to help, I hope you can find someone to help.

[mr. tegu]

Beyond all the bickering, I still think the news out of France is worth discussing. Anyone have any thoughts on it at all?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'm not denying that there are solutions. I think it's a little odd to be arguing that people can't "infringe on your rights" (which are largely issues of inconvenience)

.

You can't be serious

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Beyond all the bickering, I still think the news out of France is worth discussing. Anyone have any thoughts on it at all?

It's academically interesting, but I'm not sure why it matters.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Those people in "Charge" still have this pesky document that tell em what they can and cannot do.

You're talking about freedom of assembly, I take it?