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Direckshun · 01-03-2017, 12:25 AM

First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-29-2018, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

that's a summer 2017 article

No NFL exec is saying that right now, and if they are they need to be shitcanned yesterday.

**RealSNR** · 01-29-2018, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

NFL Executives agree...

https://www.si.com/mmqb/2017/06/15/a...icamp-notebook

"My name is Knowmo, and I'm not here to troll! I actually believe everything I say!"

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-29-2018, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

No NFL exec is saying that right now, and if they are they need to be shitcanned yesterday.

As I said before, the most impressive attribute that Mahomes has is his ability to learn and assimilate information.

Patrick will be more like Rodgers than Favre concerning his ability to play within the scheme.

Quesadilla Joe · 02-01-2018, 09:14 AM

Bruce Arians believes college QB crop may be "best in the last 15 or 20 years" https://t.co/HTtr5pepiA
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) February 1, 2018

Spoiler!

pugsnotdrugs19 · 02-01-2018, 09:38 AM

Regardless of how good or bad the class is, it's irrelevant to you because your QB will be Kirk Cousins.

O.city · 02-01-2018, 09:45 AM

Elway to afraid to take another QB early?

Quesadilla Joe · 02-01-2018, 09:49 AM

If Elway does sign Cousins, he's going to use this great crop of QB's as leverage to drive Cousins' asking price down.

O.city · 02-01-2018, 09:58 AM

Yeah, no.

If Denver is the only team after Cousins, maybe. Is that likely to be the case?

**The Franchise** · 02-01-2018, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

If Elway does sign Cousins, he's going to use this great crop of QB's as leverage to drive Cousins' asking price down.

lolwut?

Elway: Hey Cousins....we're going to need you to sign for less than $25 million.

Cousins: Uhhh....why's that?

Elway: Because we'll just draft Josh Allen and start him.

Cousins:

Good luck with that.

Quesadilla Joe · 02-01-2018, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, no.

If Denver is the only team after Cousins, maybe. Is that likely to be the case?

No, but his biggest suitors all have top 6 picks in the draft.

If they also think this is the best QB draft in 20 years, I'm sure they'd rather pay a guy like Mayfield $29M over 4 years than give Cousins $29M every year for 4 years.

I know I would.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 02-01-2018, 01:05 PM

"I will say this Patrick Mahomes was 25x better prospect in my mind than Josh Allen and Andy Reid knows what he is doing with QBs, so Chiefs should be fine." - Robert Littal

3rd party reporter sees the obvious.

Quesadilla Joe · 02-01-2018, 01:10 PM

Never heard of him.

**RealSNR** · 02-01-2018, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

If Elway does sign Cousins, he's going to use this great crop of QB's as leverage to drive Cousins' asking price down.

Sorry, but you don't know ****ing shit about "leverage" in NFL player negotiations.

Since Manning left, every time Elway has tried to drive down the price on a player, that player has told Elway to go **** himself.

The NFL doesn't work the way you think it does. It's not a ****ing game of Monopoly.

Quesadilla Joe · 02-02-2018, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Sorry, but you don't know ****ing shit about "leverage" in NFL player negotiations.

Since Manning left, every time Elway has tried to drive down the price on a player, that player has told Elway to go **** himself.

The NFL doesn't work the way you think it does. It's not a ****ing game of Monopoly.

Andrew Brandt disagrees... He thinks the rookie class is going to drive down Cousins' price.

https://www.podcastone.com/episode/R...-Andrew-Brandt

(7:38 mark)

**RealSNR** · 02-02-2018, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Andrew Brandt disagrees... He thinks the rookie class is going to drive down Cousins' price.

https://www.podcastone.com/episode/R...-Andrew-Brandt

(7:38 mark)

You mean like it drove down the price for Alex Smith?

Yeah, get the **** out of here with that shit.

01-03-2017, 12:25 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch	QB Impressions First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight. DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame 6'4", 230 lbs 26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence. Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina 6'3", 220 lbs 30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.
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02-01-2018, 09:14 AM	#919
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Quesadilla Joe's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2008	Bruce Arians believes college QB crop may be "best in the last 15 or 20 years" https://t.co/HTtr5pepiA — ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) February 1, 2018 Spoiler! Bruce Arians may not be coaching the Arizona Cardinals anymore, but that doesn’t mean he’s not still invested in the game he coached for 42 years. In an interview with Josh Weinfuss of ESPN.com at the Waste Management Open on Wednesday, Arians spoke glowingly about the group of college quarterbacks eligible to be drafted in April. “Oh, I think it’s outstanding,” Arians said. “Maybe the best in 15 or 20 years. The number of quality guys with height, stature, arms, statistics… I really wish I had the chance to meet each and every one and do all the evaluations but I think right now you could be sitting at 14 and get a quarterback. People are going to start trading up and everything but there’s enough quality guys to go around for everybody. Arians’ former team needs a quarterback following the retirement of Carson Palmer after the season. They will certainly be one of the teams pouring time into evaluations of all of the quarterbacks available in the class. Arians said there’s a lot of quarterbacks that have made an impression on him from this year’s crop. “Talent-wise, I mean, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, (Josh) Allen,” he said. “Baker (Mayfield) has that charisma. I love Lamar Jackson. I think he’s got an unbelievable skill set. Mason Rudolph beat my (Virginia Tech) Hokies with that deep ball and he may have the best deep ball of all of them. You could go on and on.”
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02-01-2018, 09:38 AM	#920
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2013	Regardless of how good or bad the class is, it's irrelevant to you because your QB will be Kirk Cousins.
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02-01-2018, 09:45 AM	#921
O.city In Search of a Life O.city's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2009	Elway to afraid to take another QB early?
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02-01-2018, 09:49 AM	#922
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Quesadilla Joe's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2008	If Elway does sign Cousins, he's going to use this great crop of QB's as leverage to drive Cousins' asking price down.
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02-01-2018, 09:58 AM	#923
O.city In Search of a Life O.city's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2009	Yeah, no. If Denver is the only team after Cousins, maybe. Is that likely to be the case?
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02-01-2018, 01:05 PM	#926
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS pugsnotdrugs19's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2013	"I will say this Patrick Mahomes was 25x better prospect in my mind than Josh Allen and Andy Reid knows what he is doing with QBs, so Chiefs should be fine." - Robert Littal 3rd party reporter sees the obvious.
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02-01-2018, 01:10 PM	#927
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Quesadilla Joe's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2008	Never heard of him.
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