***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I've read they think influenza could be asymptomatic in 60-70% of cases, give or take, and I believe that was the original ballpark of Covid, with I'm sure some assumptions of similarity in that regard.... I hadn't known that a while back, so at one time my reasoning for not getting a flu shot was that I never got/get the flu.

Study of H1N1 cases in children showed anywhere from 50-80% of cases were asymptomatic.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I've read they think influenza could be asymptomatic in 60-70% of cases, give or take, and I believe that was the original ballpark of Covid, with I'm sure some assumptions of similarity in that regard.... I hadn't known that a while back, so at one time my reasoning for not getting a flu shot was that I never got/get the flu.

It kinda opened my eyes to the fact that we just build in flu deaths and such which may be preventable

Hell from all the reading I’ve done, we can’t compare this to the flu because we don’t have accurate flu data.

Like you I’ve somewhat been lax on the flu shot. No more on that.

[O.city]

So there’s some stuff on Twitter about Florida that seems weird

Apparently about a third of the labs are reporting 100% positives on tests. Would that mean they’re only reporting positive cases and not negatives?

[TLO]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-atl...-mexico-border

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by crayzkirk

The last two weekends, I was in Hickory county with zero cases recorded. We drove to a fireworks house both weekends and bought fireworks. Most of the people that were in the place were wearing masks. Including me and my friends. The workers were wearing masks about 50% of the time.

I've been to the dentist, they checked my temperature and wore masks. I've been to the eye doctor, they checked my temperature and wore masks. My eye doctor even used her fingers to open my eyes and get a good look while I was dialated. I don't feel violated nor do I feel that my rights were infringed upon. I went into their place of business and complied with the rules in place.

Why is everyone making this some sort of major issue? What has happened to us, as Americans, who pride themselves on their freedoms, that we get so polarized and make this political when it's not a real big deal.

Well now hickory has started getting positives.

Probably from all the out of towners coming down

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

So there’s some stuff on Twitter about Florida that seems weird

Apparently about a third of the labs are reporting 100% positives on tests. Would that mean they’re only reporting positive cases and not negatives?

Curious

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by Donger

15,300 new cases in Florida

Are you ****ing serious?

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Are you ****ing serious?

And that’s the ones being tested and caught. Imagine the actual infection rate.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

So there’s some stuff on Twitter about Florida that seems weird

Apparently about a third of the labs are reporting 100% positives on tests. Would that mean they’re only reporting positive cases and not negatives?

Another question I'd ask is how backlogged are the labs at this point? How many days of testing does that 15,000+ cover?

[crayzkirk]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Well now hickory has started getting positives.

Probably from all the out of towners coming down

Oh darn it, the secret is out. It was nice while it lasted. Pomme De Terr isn't a very big lake, we saw someone putting in a twin engine monster (30+ foot boat like you see on Lake of the Ozarks) on the road which is a lake access point. Evidently no one told him that the cove is full of stumps, he hit the gas and then bad things happened. Should have been using one of the state park concrete launches however that would have been in full view of the water patrol.

As others have said, you can try to hide from this however it's going to reach everywhere.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by Kidd Lex

And that’s the ones being tested and caught. Imagine the actual infection rate.

No way that is real. Something is fishy about it.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by crayzkirk

Oh darn it, the secret is out. It was nice while it lasted. Pomme De Terr isn't a very big lake, we saw someone putting in a twin engine monster (30+ foot boat like you see on Lake of the Ozarks) on the road which is a lake access point. Evidently no one told him that the cove is full of stumps, he hit the gas and then bad things happened. Should have been using one of the state park concrete launches however that would have been in full view of the water patrol.

As others have said, you can try to hide from this however it's going to reach everywhere.

Well almost 5 months in they had 0. Once people started coming down from the cities they ****ed that county.

They could have (and did) hide from it, unfortunately people can't just stay home.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

No way that is real. Something is fishy about it.

Testing has doubled over the last month, going from about 25,000 tests per day to almost 50,000, but the percentage of people testing positive has risen even more dramatically. A month ago, fewer than 5% of tests came up positive on a daily average. Over the past week, the daily average exceeded 19%.

Testing is working and is revealing. It must be stopped.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by TLO

Another question I'd ask is how backlogged are the labs at this point? How many days of testing does that 15,000+ cover?

Haven't they averaged almost 10k for days?

It doesn't appear to be a backlog at that point

[Donger]

Arizona seems to have done a pretty good job slowing their new case growth.