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Old 01-03-2017, 12:25 AM  
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QB Impressions

First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:04 AM   #601
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Old 08-27-2017, 03:49 PM   #602
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:14 AM   #603
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I'm incredibly thrilled for Kizer. I really want this kid to be very good.

The problem is he's going to have to start this year for a team that's not remotely ready to give him any help. I really hope the Browns don't break him.

This will be an excellent test for him. Survive this year, big man, let the team congeal around you.
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:39 AM   #604
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Kizer has a 51% completion percentage so far after 3 games. I watched his highlights from the last game and they had him throwing a lot of deep passes, almost all of which were incomplete. I'm not sure what they are doing with him, or why people think he looks great. IMO, Trubisky still looks the best (albeit he's getting most of his playing time late in games) and then I'd say Kizer and Mahomes are tied. They each have some "wow" moments and throws, but then lack consistency. Watson isn't looking great right now, and it isn't even because of the ball speed.
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:04 AM   #605
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I haven't been watching Watson. What're you seeing?
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:27 AM   #606
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Kizer has a 51% completion percentage so far after 3 games. I watched his highlights from the last game and they had him throwing a lot of deep passes, almost all of which were incomplete. I'm not sure what they are doing with him, or why people think he looks great. IMO, Trubisky still looks the best (albeit he's getting most of his playing time late in games) and then I'd say Kizer and Mahomes are tied. They each have some "wow" moments and throws, but then lack consistency. Watson isn't looking great right now, and it isn't even because of the ball speed.
I agree.

Trubisky has the best mechanics by far and that makes him the best. The downfield accuracy concerns for Watson are being magnified. Anything past 15 yards is a real struggle for him.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:08 PM   #607
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talking to Bears & Chiefs & watching Watson, it could turn out to have been a great QB class. Some teams in need may 2nd guess themselves
7:33 AM · Aug 10, 2017

**** NFL experts. "oh my god this class sucks wait for next year!". God I'm glad we finally pulled the damn trigger.

I will maintain what I said before the draft: this is a good QB class and I would have been happy with many of these guys. They all have ability and some warts.

I hope Mahomes, Watson, Kizer and Trubisky all turn into good starters for a long time so we can shit on these "experts" every year.
Some teams are adjusting their draft strategies to the product that's coming out of the NCAA these days, and some teams aren't.

You're going to see far more draft classes like 2017 where every top QB prospect has some sort of question mark or red flag that sticks out. If your scouts do their ****ing homework, those question marks and red flags shouldn't be an issue, but if you're clueless and waiting to be spoonfed a QB from the draft, you're going to be waiting a long time.

What did I say? If Darnold doesn't declare in 2018, that QB class isn't going to look nearly as special as people claimed it did. There will be some good QBs, but they're not going to be those perfect golden boys that everybody thought would flow like honey in 2018. Many of them are going to be rated about in the same range as the top 4 guys from 2017. And like every draft class, some will rise and some will fall. Will Rosen and Allen put it together and demonstrate their talent can be translated to the NFL? They might. They might not. They both might fall to the 3rd round. They might go 1st and 2nd overall.

The night we drafted Mahomes was so goddamn glorious. We didn't wait until 2018. We saw a guy we liked and we traded to GO GET him. It feels great to have a vision and not just be a team that says, "We're going to keep folding pre-ante until we're dealt pocket aces."
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:29 PM   #608
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The night we drafted Mahomes was so goddamn glorious. We didn't wait until 2018. We saw a guy we liked and we traded to GO GET him. It feels great to have a vision and not just be a team that says, "We're going to keep folding pre-ante until we're dealt pocket aces."
"Go away! 'Batin'...."

It's impossible to overstate how happy I am with how this whole goddamn quarterback circus has turned out. Mahomes will be right there alonside Winston, Mariotta and Carr as the "premier young QBs leading the next wave after Manning and Brady..."

For the first time in our lifetimes the Chiefs are going to be among the NFL's quarterback royalty and it's because they DIDN'T sit around and wait to get lucky.
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:33 PM   #609
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That'll be weird when the "young QB wave" is in Kansas City, Tennessee, Tampa Bay, and Oakland.
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:09 PM   #610
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I haven't been watching Watson. What're you seeing?
He's not used to NFL speed yet. Seems to be a little slow going through his reads. Throwing the ball up for grabs when under pressure. But, he's been playing earlier in games against more defensive starters than the other rookies.
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Old 09-02-2017, 02:09 PM   #611
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"Josh Allen will be better than Pat Mahomes."

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshNorri...041409/video/1

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Old 09-02-2017, 03:11 PM   #612
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"Josh Allen will be better than Pat Mahomes."

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshNorri...041409/video/1

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Old 09-02-2017, 11:28 PM   #613
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshNorri...041409/video/1

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Can't wait to watch all these stupid ****ers waffle. A bad week isn't the end of the world, but he wasn't really great from the start and hasn't had a good game against a worthwhile opponent.
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Old 09-03-2017, 08:03 AM   #614
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Falk had a decent game, 33-39 3TDs 311 yards. Montana State was dropping 8 in coverage the whole game so most of the passes were into the flats for the RBs.
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Old 09-03-2017, 10:55 PM   #615
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Darnold and Allen had really rough weeks.

Rosen on the other hand looked great in UCLA's comeback win. Though I'll say one of those TD's towards the end should've been picked.
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