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Old 08-06-2020, 07:46 AM  
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Lucas Niang opts out...

https://twitter.com/tompelissero/sta...407051781?s=21

Damn.
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Old 08-06-2020, 05:53 PM   #226
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I wouldn't pencil is any rookies to start this year, outside of probably CEH out of necessity.

No offseason work was a crusher for rookies.
Gay will probably start out in sub packages
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Old 08-06-2020, 06:33 PM   #227
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Gay will probably start out in sub packages
I wouldn't expect it. Not 0%, but I just wouldn't count on any rookies contributing much outside of CEH.
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Old 08-06-2020, 06:41 PM   #228
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We will have a better OL than we did last year, I think. Osemele, Williams, Remmers and getting Rankin back is really solid depth behind a mostly experienced OL. I’d surely have a guy like Allen on speed dial though.



HE LEAD THEM.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kan...243304766.html

If it weren’t for him having the benefit of his hip having the year to heel, I’d be a little more interested in why he opted out.

Honestly, this is perfect for his long term career with us.
I sure hope your right. I’d rather not have a 330lb man come up the middle with a head of steam and **** up our football savior.
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Old 08-06-2020, 06:46 PM   #229
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I wouldn't expect it. Not 0%, but I just wouldn't count on any rookies contributing much outside of CEH.
Well Spags sure did sound like he expects Gay to win one of the starting OLB jobs.

It’s not like there’s a lot of competition there either.
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:04 PM   #230
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:38 PM   #231
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:39 PM   #232
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:41 PM   #233
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Old 08-06-2020, 11:29 PM   #234
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I'm not even sure why CPers were penciling in Niang at left guard when the guy's been a starting right tackle since his freshman year in college.
Veach said he was a guard.
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Old 08-07-2020, 01:01 AM   #235
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Veach said he was a guard.
He said they’d try him inside at guard but also run with the tackles and only if there was a full training camp.


The plan may be totally different next summer.
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Old 08-07-2020, 07:40 AM   #236
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Anyone else really intrigued by Darryl Williams? I think that guy might stick, especially now with this opt out. He seems to have starter upside at guard or center.
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Old 08-07-2020, 08:33 AM   #237
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Anyone else really intrigued by Darryl Williams? I think that guy might stick, especially now with this opt out. He seems to have starter upside at guard or center.
Traditionally I'd say yes. I've always preferred C/G to be a little on the shorter side as I've felt like it helps w/ pad-level issues and leverage on the interior (where leverage is king).

But Andy doesn't seem to agree with me. He likes having tall guys even on the inside when he can. And with more guys like Jones plating DT at 6'6'', he's probably onto something. A 6 ft guy is gonna struggle like crazy to get a punch in on someone like Jones because he's just not going to have to reach to get to him before Jones has his hands in his chest and is driving him backwards.

With the way Andy's built his OL over the last several years, I think Williams will have an uphill climb outside of maybe making the roster as versatile interior depth.
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Old 08-07-2020, 08:41 AM   #238
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Our OL is not improved as he stated.
The loss of LDT and Niang is a huge hit to our depth at OL.
Yeah, it's a loss of depth. But Niang was a huge question mark if only for health concerns. You can't pencil him in as any kind of clear upgrade, especially if Rankin manages to make it back in any kind of shape. And Osemele brings the same health issues that LDT did but with legitimate Pro Bowl upside that LDT didn't have.

Ultimately I just can't see any kind of support for the idea that the line is WORSE. We replaced LDT w/ a guy with the same floor and a higher ceiling. Niang was a wild card in his own right who would've essentially taken Wisniewki's roster spot. Okay, well we got Wiz off the street in week 6 - maybe that was more about the system than the player. The player himself was street free agent depth.

And if Fisher doesn't miss 9 weeks this year, the line will be HUGELY improved over last year, regardless of what else happens on the interior. Again - Cameron Erving took more snaps at LT last year than Eric Fisher did.

Yes, there's absolutely a path to this line being better than last year's line. All we need is a healthy Fisher and its essentially a lock. Losing a rookie (who had no camp and was coming off a serious injury) and a declining G doesn't change that.
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Old 08-07-2020, 08:45 AM   #239
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I'm not risking Mahomes on a season where we're down 2 OL before the first snap.

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Well sheet.

Not great news - another hit to the depth of the squad. I'd say we're about out of rope on the OL.

We have some UDFA lineman with nice potential, but with a limited camp and no pre-season, you just have very little ability to get them up to speed.

On its own this won't hurt us but we essentially have no wiggle room left. Rankin needs to come back healthy to give us any depth on the IOL. This may save Allegretti (who I think might have been in trouble). It's pretty well ensures that Remmers is that swing-tackle, though that was probably pretty likely.

Just hate seeing the shots the depth is taking. Injuries could be truly catastrophic at this point.

Are these new CP buzzwords? I haven't logged on much lately. Anyways LMK!!
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Old 08-07-2020, 08:49 AM   #240
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My best guess right now is:

Fisher - Osemele - Reiter - Wylie - Schwartz

Remmers is your swing tackle. Rankin and Allegretti are your interior backups.

And we’ll keep 10 OL...maybe more so you’ve got other guys in there as well.

Is it the best offensive line out there? No. But we’ve got great OTs and Reid has shown the ability to find at least average starters on the interior.
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