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Old 11-22-2020, 11:15 PM   #2
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We're not athletic at those spots and the Raiders abuse it.

The Raiders offense takes advantage of being in a league where everyone is spreading the field, they don't. So they can attack places teams save money.
Their OL has to be the best in the league. It’s made Carr look way better than he really is.

But credit to them. Darren Waller, Josh Jacobs and Kolton Miller were excellent personnel moves by Mayock.

Agholor has been pretty good for them this year but he definitely showed his ass with that big drop tonight
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:32 PM   #3
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Their OL has to be the best in the league. It’s made Carr look way better than he really is.
This is likely true, that O line is legit... they got the best of us all night long

There were times in pass pro that looked like some Madden glitch
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Old 11-23-2020, 10:54 AM   #4
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And we're obviously not smart enough to get Sorensen and Niemann out of the lineup. What is it with this team and shitty white players with an endless leash?
Those guys are better against run heavy teams, which I would say the Raiders fall into that category. Gay wasn't any good either in this game, and I'd have to go back and watch the tape but it was definitely one of Honey Badger's worst games this year. I saw Thornhill struggle on at least a handful of plays, too.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:07 PM   #5
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The Raiders matchup with us because of their build. They run the ball, throw a bunch of checkdowns to backs a TEs while taking the occasional deep shot. While having a massive line that is paid, it's basically perfect weaponry against us..on top of that they're also smart enough to attack Sorensen and Niemann repeatedly.
And we still beat them while missing a bunch of really good players.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:11 PM   #6
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And we still beat them while missing a bunch of really good players.
And the Raiders hardly practiced this week so.....


I don't wanna take away from the win. A divisional win on the road is a divisional win on the road. Patrick is a ****ing beast and won the game for us.

But the defense cannot keep putting us in a position where the offense has to be perfect every drive.

They did that against the Panthers and then again this week. We got to do things like tackle better. We tackle tonight and we slow the Raiders down a lot.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:04 PM   #7
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Peter stop being stupid, seriously.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:06 PM   #8
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We didn't tackle tonight. It's pretty simple.

Get the players to tackle. They've done it before.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:06 PM   #9
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You guys see what Kelce does? There isn't anyone that can play Waller.. putting him and Ruggs together means they have someone singled...then you add in how often Carr will go to backs, what do you do?
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:08 PM   #10
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I know people here hate on Dan but almost every game he makes big plays. Hell he took out 2 starting RB's in back to back weeks with his hitting.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:12 PM   #11
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I know people here hate on Dan but almost every game he makes big plays. Hell he took out 2 starting RB's in back to back weeks with his hitting.
Playoff Dan is a totally different guy.

But regular season Dan is getting exposed right now.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:13 PM   #12
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Playoff Dan is a totally different guy.

But regular season Dan is getting exposed right now.
Kittle made some plays on him. Covering TEs isnt his thing.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:15 PM   #13
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Kittle made some plays on him. Covering TEs isnt his thing.
Unless you have some freak like Derwin James covering TEs is hard in today's game.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:19 PM   #14
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Unless you have some freak like Derwin James covering TEs is hard in today's game.
Yes, I know. Unlike your Belichek shutting down TEs who are 6'4 and can run 4.4 is nearly impossible. It is a weak spot on our defense just like many others. My point is without a pass rush things like that will be exposed. Like I also said let me know if Jones/Clark play this poorly in the post season. Only then I will care.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:14 PM   #15
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I know people here hate on Dan but almost every game he makes big plays. Hell he took out 2 starting RB's in back to back weeks with his hitting.
He missed like a half a dozen tackles, badly. He can't cover anyone at all; all that shit over the middle all night long and look who was trailing behind...Dirty Dan.

of the Raiders 364 yards, you could probably honestly chalk up 100 on Dirty Dan's ledger.

Making ONE play does not negate that.

He and Niemann are too slow and not strong enough to make up for that. They need replacing as soon as possible.
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