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Old 07-24-2017, 03:46 PM   #2
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I hope Brett Veach starts drafting with an eye for the "now" more so than later, even if he's drafting to replace guys in the future.
I expect 2018 to be Veach's most challenging year.

The Chiefs are $2 million over the expected cap. Unless Eligwe, March, Wilson or Alexander make huge leaps this year, the Chiefs will need at least one starting ILBer.

They'll need depth at OLB, considering Nicolas is starting on the PUP and Hali is 200 years old and unless Conley, Chesson or Robinson make huge leaps, they'll need more talent at the WR position.

If Terrance Mitchell is actually a thing, he'll need an extension. If not, they'll be in the market for a #2 CB. If Logan sucks, they'll need a DT. If Logan kicks ass, they'll need to re-sign him, even though they don't have any cap space.

I'm sure he's up for the challenge but he's not in the most enviable position.
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Old 07-24-2017, 03:48 PM   #3
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I expect 2018 to be Veach's most challenging year.

The Chiefs are $2 million over the expected cap. Unless Eligwe, March, Wilson or Alexander make huge leaps this year, the Chiefs will need at least one starting ILBer.

They'll need depth at OLB, considering Nicolas is starting on the PUP and Hali is 200 years old and unless Conley, Chesson or Robinson make huge leaps, they'll need more talent at the WR position.

If Terrance Mitchell is actually a thing, he'll need an extension. If not, they'll be in the market for a #2 CB. If Logan sucks, they'll need a DT. If Logan kicks ass, they'll need to re-sign him, even though they don't have any cap space.

I'm sure he's up for the challenge but he's not in the most enviable position.
They can also release Smith to save 17 mil
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Old 07-24-2017, 03:54 PM   #4
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I expect 2018 to be Veach's most challenging year.

The Chiefs are $2 million over the expected cap. Unless Eligwe, March, Wilson or Alexander make huge leaps this year, the Chiefs will need at least one starting ILBer.

They'll need depth at OLB, considering Nicolas is starting on the PUP and Hali is 200 years old and unless Conley, Chesson or Robinson make huge leaps, they'll need more talent at the WR position.

If Terrance Mitchell is actually a thing, he'll need an extension. If not, they'll be in the market for a #2 CB. If Logan sucks, they'll need a DT. If Logan kicks ass, they'll need to re-sign him, even though they don't have any cap space.

I'm sure he's up for the challenge but he's not in the most enviable position.
Hali will be a guaranteed cut, so they will need to address OLB.

I think Logan is a one year rental that will be replaced by a rookie from a much better NT class in 2018. They don't have as much value, so I'm not too concerned about being able to find a quality one without a 1.

They should have enough cash to sign Mitchell if he plays well enough.
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Old 07-24-2017, 06:11 PM   #5
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I hope we keep drafting guys with "issues" provided we do our homework on them.

To some extent, Kpassagnon is another high potential athlete pick who won't contribute much in year one that I wish we'd get away from. We already made a huge investment in "future" with Mahomes, and Dorsey continued to make picks that won't see much at all in immediate contribution.

I hope Brett Veach starts drafting with an eye for the "now" more so than later, even if he's drafting to replace guys in the future.
Agreed to a large extent.

I view 1st and 2nd round picks as "now" picks. 3rd and 4th round is an area you swing on guys that might have some off-field risks/motivational issues and start leaning towards athletes you can mold into something. 5th-7th are athletes, guys that can contribute on special teams in hopes you can make something out of them and maybe a reserve lineman here and there.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:56 PM   #6
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I do hope he deviates slightly from Dorsey's philosophy of top picks. It's one thing to occasionally draft for raw athletes. A number of them (Peters and Jones specifically) are okay because the shit that causes them to fall can be overlooked and examined with the excellent coaches and atmosphere on staff. The shit I'm talking about is continually over relying on athletes and potential over solid traits that produce immediate contributors.

No, I'm not saying draft for need. I'm saying maybe it's be better to find pass rushers or OTs that don't stop sucking hippo testicles until their third season. Maybe the less strong guy that doesn't require near the amount of transition time is better. Sometimes. I'm looking for more of a balance
I think a lot of that is the coaching staff. They've taken these boom or bust players and mostly hit on them.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:44 PM   #7
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So, does anyone believe Clark's story and not believe that Reid got Dorsey pushed out now?
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:53 PM   #8
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So, does anyone believe Clark's story and not believe that Reid got Dorsey pushed out now?
Do you believe anything happened today to sway anyone's opinion?
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Old 07-24-2017, 03:24 PM   #9
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Do you believe anything happened today to sway anyone's opinion?
Probably not, other than Clark saying they were never negotiating an extension. Sounds in print as though Clark was pretty snide about it really.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:51 PM   #10
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Per Matt Derrick

Derrick Johnson just walked down the sidewalk. Looks like he's reporting with the injured players attending camp with rookies & QBs.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:01 PM   #11
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DJ will not start on PUP. Ehinger & Dadi will.

Damn DJ healed fast
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:08 PM   #12
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Chris Jones had knee surgery 2 weeks ago and is on the PUP.

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Old 07-24-2017, 02:09 PM   #13
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Reid looks like he has dropped a fair amount of weight during the offseason.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:13 PM   #14
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Round 1 of this year is the only Dorsey draft I loved on the day. Now, I have loved several of the picks once we got to training camp and the season, but loving the draft? Child, please. There were way too many unknowns picked over highly projected, productive players to really "love" the actual draft.

Results were great, though, a few epic **** ups aside (Carr, the fullback, Russel). Letting David Irving go was also a major screw up, and I'd say not drafting La'el Collins is up there.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:14 PM   #15
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Same question different worded was annoying he answered it and move on.
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