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Old 05-21-2019, 10:15 AM  
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:51 PM   #256
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I hope you realize you're agreeing with me and not TomBarndtsTwin who thinks that defensive linemen are more important than defensive backs.
And thanks for putting words in my mouth, but no, that’s not what I said.

I said I would rather have an elite DT than an elite CB.


Reading comprehension is key.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:52 PM   #257
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and I said Belichick would disagree with you.

As do I.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:03 PM   #258
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and I said Belichick would disagree with you.

As do I.
And other bright NFL defensive minds would disagree with you and Belichick. And that’s fine.

Again, the 3 best DT’s in the NFL started for last years Super Bowl champion, this years Super Bowl runner up, and the other team that should have been playing them in the Super Bowl but wasn’t because Dee Ford is a moron. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. Having an elite game changing DT is a rare commodity in today’s NFL.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:26 PM   #259
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We had more sacks last year than...ever? And couldn't stop a toddler on a Barbie Dreamwheels
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:31 PM   #260
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And other bright NFL defensive minds would disagree with you and Belichick. And that’s fine.

Again, the 3 best DT’s in the NFL started for last years Super Bowl champion, this years Super Bowl runner up, and the other team that should have been playing them in the Super Bowl but wasn’t because Dee Ford is a moron. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. Having an elite game changing DT is a rare commodity in today’s NFL.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
I think I'd reconsider my stance if I were disagreeing with the greatest coach ever.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:34 PM   #261
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We had more sacks last year than...ever? And couldn't stop a toddler on a Barbie Dreamwheels
Perhaps that was partly the fault of our dumbass of a defensive coordinator?

Would you have rather the Chiefs kept Marcus Peters and gotten rid of Chris Jones? You think we would be better off if we did that, hypothetically speaking?
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:40 PM   #262
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I think I'd reconsider my stance if I were disagreeing with the greatest coach ever.
Right, because Tom Brady had nothing to do with all those Super Bowls. It was all elite CB play. Look, Belicheat is a GREAT coach, but how come his defenses never won shit till he was paired up with Brady?

And before you come back with “but mid 80’s Giants!”, Parcells get the lions share of the credit for those teams. Belichick left Parcells to go be head coach in Cleveland, sucked, then went to New England for a year and had success under, guess who?, left Parcells again and went to the Jets, underachieved, then went back to New England to be head coach and drafted a guy named Brady in the 6th round and the rest is history.

Look, I’m honestly not trying to shit on Belichick. He IS a great defensive coach and is largely responsible for the Pats incredible run, along with Brady, but let’s not pretend he’s infallible. If that’s your stance, then you’re just parroting Patsies fans.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:09 PM   #263
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Right, because Tom Brady had nothing to do with all those Super Bowls. It was all elite CB play. Look, Belicheat is a GREAT coach, but how come his defenses never won shit till he was paired up with Brady?

And before you come back with “but mid 80’s Giants!”, Parcells get the lions share of the credit for those teams. Belichick left Parcells to go be head coach in Cleveland, sucked, then went to New England for a year and had success under, guess who?, left Parcells again and went to the Jets, underachieved, then went back to New England to be head coach and drafted a guy named Brady in the 6th round and the rest is history.

Look, I’m honestly not trying to shit on Belichick. He IS a great defensive coach and is largely responsible for the Pats incredible run, along with Brady, but let’s not pretend he’s infallible. If that’s your stance, then you’re just parroting Patsies fans.
What a diarrhea word salad this is.

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Look, I’m honestly not trying to shit on Belichick.
Make up your mind. But anyhow, he has multiple rings as an assistant and benched a fan favorite in Bernie Kosar and was winning in a total shit hole in Cleveland. Sounds like he won plenty before Brady.

Secondary play matters a lot in an era where briefly breathing on a QB gets you 15 yards.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:15 PM   #264
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What a diarrhea word salad this is.



Make up your mind. But anyhow, he has multiple rings as an assistant and benched a fan favorite in Bernie Kosar and was winning in a total shit hole in Cleveland. Sounds like he won plenty before Brady.

Secondary play matters a lot in an era where briefly breathing on a QB gets you 15 yards.
So to go back to the original point of this whole discussion, before we chased the shiny red ball that is Belichick, you’re in agreement with Kimo that you’d rather have an elite CB, such as Ramsey, than an elite DT, such as Aaron Donald?
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I think I'd reconsider my stance if I were disagreeing with the greatest coach ever.
I don't give a **** what that guy does with his positions or how he pays them either. Scheming, trickery, and rule subversion are the aces he holds.

How many times were his defenses top 10 during their SB runs?
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Bob Fescoe who broke the Mitchell Schwartz extension reports that Chris Jones and the Chiefs are far apart in negotiations and may miss some training camp. Chiefs willing to pay around 42-47 guaranteed. Jones wants 67 guaranteed
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Bob Fescoe who broke the Mitchell Schwartz extension reports that Chris Jones and the Chiefs are far apart in negotiations and may miss some training camp. Chiefs willing to pay around 42-47 guaranteed. Jones wants 67 guaranteed
Well, 67 mil. guaranteed isn’t as bad as 87 mil. (Donald’s gtd. amount) that he reportedly was after.

The Chiefs should be able to get this done. Hopefully they meet in the middle and both parties can come away happy . . . . .
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Belichick would 100% disagree with you.
Why is Belechick used as the bar by which we measure what the Chiefs do or don’t do? He is one of the top defensive minds of all time. He can afford to do things others can’t. Terrible example.
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The deal will get done by the middle of TC. Not worried one bit.
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