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Old 06-30-2020, 07:59 PM  
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Chris Jones threatens to Hold Out

Well shit.




UPDATE 7/12/20: Things are looking good!






UPDATE 7/14: Looks Done!


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Old 07-06-2020, 06:05 PM   #256
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Anyone else feel like this helps the case for CJ to sign?

I do.
I mean I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this deal got done today.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:10 PM   #257
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I mean I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this deal got done today.
This. The stars are aligning.

The threats of a hold-out have me a bit concerned though. If this was the angle, why wouldn’t they tell Jones they were headed that way?

There has been nothing but silence from the Chiefs to Jones’ camp. That would be a lot of ground to cover in 9 days.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:51 PM   #258
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Spotrac has mahomes salary going up by 2 mil for this year, overthecap doesnt but if it does that leaves us with just 1.5 mil and all our picks still to sign so something else still has to happen to get them all signed. I say a jones deal.
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:06 PM   #259
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Honestly we overpaid for Clark. Jones is more consistent.
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:07 PM   #260
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Honestly we overpaid for Clark. Jones is more consistent.
If we get the Clark that we got in the playoffs going forward, then I have absolutely no problem with that deal.

Remember he was a lot more injured than anybody knew for the first half of last season.
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:10 PM   #261
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Yeah I don't even think we've seen peak Clark yet.



But also we haven't seen peak Jones
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:18 PM   #262
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Honestly we overpaid for Clark. Jones is more consistent.
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:21 PM   #263
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Jones was arguably the MVP of the Superbowl. He knocked down 3 passes while triple teamed.
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:25 PM   #264
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Honestly we overpaid for Clark. Jones is more consistent.


How much are 5 sacks in the playoffs (3 Game Ending) and the first SB win in 50 years worth?
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:33 PM   #265
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Why can’t we pay both? Lock up your stars and have league minimum for rest
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:41 PM   #266
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Honestly we overpaid for Clark. Jones is more consistent.
I was hard on Frank Clark for the first half of the season. But his performance in the 2nd half of season and especially in the playoffs made him one of my favs. Crow I was happy to eat.
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Old 07-06-2020, 07:48 PM   #267
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Honestly we overpaid for Clark. Jones is more consistent.

Clark was amazing in the playoffs.
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Old 07-06-2020, 08:06 PM   #268
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Why can’t we pay both? Lock up your stars and have league minimum for rest
That only works when two things happen:

1. you draft really well
2. you get discounts from free agents

Brett Veach handles number 1, and Pat Mahomes handles number 2.

So yeah, I think that’s the strategy.
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Old 07-06-2020, 08:12 PM   #269
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I was hard on Frank Clark for the first half of the season. But his performance in the 2nd half of season and especially in the playoffs made him one of my favs. Crow I was happy to eat.
This seems like as good a time as any for this (and no, it never gets old):

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Old 07-06-2020, 08:18 PM   #270
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Also, based on the bits a pieces I picked up on the radio, which absolutely could be wrong:

1. It’s and extension so his approx base salaries for this year and next don’t change from the $2.8m and $28m they were yesterday;

2. He’s due a $45m roster bonus is 6 years

3. He’s getting $140m guaranteed (this may be wrong as I think it was an injury guarantee but until I hear differently I’m going with it)

That means once the extension kicks in he’ll be counting $14m per year in bonus money and $310m minus $45m in base salary

That comes out to an average cap hit until 2026 of $265m divided by 10 plus $14m in pro-rated bonus or around $40.5m per year and maybe less depending on what the out years look like.

For the next few years we have him (cap-wise) for a bargain.
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