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08-22-2023, 07:43 AM | #2 | |
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Alos shitty people and bad drivers also cause traffic jam. A driverless society (which I acknowledge will not happen in my lifetime) you would have yo think lower traffic by a ton just due to efficiency. |
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08-22-2023, 12:55 PM | #3 | |
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08-22-2023, 12:52 PM | #4 | |
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Now, this is all assuming that the software is good and works well. My fear is that there are bugs in the software or that they are able to be hacked. Just think of the havoc one could wreak if all cars were driverless and they could be hacked. That's scary. |
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08-22-2023, 01:12 PM | #5 | |
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The second is that the hacking thing is completely nonsensical and a boogeyman from movies and TV shows. Basically every car today sold is mainly powered by a computer. Most modern safety functions of a car like adaptive cruise control and brake detection warnings are already run by a computer. Is there a massive wave of mysterious deaths due to cars doing random things? Of course not. Why would these magical hackers not be causing mayhem right now when it's certainly easier to do it today than it will be in a likely very highly regulated and monitored system 20 years from now? It's because "hacking" as people think of in the movies doesn't exist in this context. No one can upload a virus to your car and turn it into a death machine or else scorned ex-lovers would clearly resort to that rather than burying a body in a field somewhere with evidence all around. |
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08-22-2023, 05:14 PM | #6 | |
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty certain these driverless cars are networked (blue toothed, internet, whatever you want to call it), especially the cab company referenced in post 56 from San Francisco. I can not imagine any possibility of them turning a fleet of driverless cars loose without a central dispatch control. Can you? However, your normal consumer owned car, has a self contained, non networked computer. You would need to plug into it to hack it, similar to the service code reader. Thus, the possibility of hacking driverless cars would be a very real possibility. |
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08-22-2023, 07:32 PM | #7 | |
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Yes, the network being hacked is one of those unlikely, but high risk scenarios that need to be taken seriously. Having millions of cars being ordered to crash simultaneously is the Hollywood movie scenario. But even just a situation where a hack shuts down tens of millions of cars that commuters count on every day would be serious. The idea that any network that is online is 100 percent secure is laughable. |
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08-23-2023, 10:00 AM | #8 | |
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08-22-2023, 05:37 PM | #9 | |
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08-22-2023, 10:18 AM | #10 |
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I lean more towards getting unnecessary drivers off the road through remote work, delivery services, and walking while implementing driver less vehicles as a compliment to the primary solution mentioned above.
There are WAYYYY too many people who just suck at driving that are placing others in danger for no good reason. BTW: Get off your cell phone. If you were that important that you need 24/7 connectivity you wouldn't be driving. |
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08-22-2023, 10:41 AM | #11 | |
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On a recent trip we were taking to Indianapolis, a young lady in a mini van wasn't even hiding the fact she was texting/using her phone for many miles on I-44. She was actually holding it up near the rear view mirror like she was facetiming someone doing 75mph. They should make a device, similar to those breathalyzer interlocks to keep the driver off of their phones. |
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08-22-2023, 05:41 PM | #14 |
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Not having to drive would be a dream. Literally life changing.
I have come to dislike it in the past 5 or so years. So many chances for bad and annoying things to happen that can cause people to get hurt or a ton of money come out of my pocket. I would not need to drive a whole lot of my work commute was not 30-45 mins one day I can get away with most stuff being walkable or public transit adjacent during stretches off of days. |
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Then there is the other extreme like China, if I remember correctly, where you basically live at the factory, almost like a prison. I guess it is the choice you make on where you want to live. |
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