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Old 04-10-2013, 10:04 PM   #2
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I've heard from multiple people who are high on this trade that Alex Smith has an "upside" of being Trent Green. What they don't understand is that Trent Green isn't good enough. We could sign Trent Green in his prime tomorrow, and he would never take us to a Superbowl.
I disagree adamantly about that, and the same time Alex Smith is in no way like Trent Green. Cassel was also suppose to be like Trent also.
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:47 AM   #3
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I've heard from multiple people who are high on this trade that Alex Smith has an "upside" of being Trent Green. What they don't understand is that Trent Green isn't good enough. We could sign Trent Green in his prime tomorrow, and he would never take us to a Superbowl.
Dumb.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:04 AM   #4
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Dumb.
You would think with a fan base that has dealt with as shitty a QB play as we have since Trent Green left this fan base would understand how good he was.

I guess being #1 & #2 in scoring offense just isn't good enough for Chiefs fans, we need to be uh......better than #1!
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:19 AM   #5
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You would think with a fan base that has dealt with as shitty a QB play as we have since Trent Green left this fan base would understand how good he was.

I guess being #1 & #2 in scoring offense just isn't good enough for Chiefs fans, we need to be uh......better than #1!
He was very good for like 3 years. With Priest leading the way behind an all-time great O-line and a team that was very intentionally built to have nothing but offense.

He did that in his 30s. I can't say that Alex Smith, with the same surrounding cast, couldn't do the same thing. Probably win just as many playoff games, too.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:25 AM   #6
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He was very good for like 3 years. With Priest leading the way behind an all-time great O-line and a team that was very intentionally built to have nothing but offense.

He did that in his 30s. I can't say that Alex Smith, with the same surrounding cast, couldn't do the same thing. Probably win just as many playoff games, too.
Trent had 5 good years, would have had 6 and was on pace to his best season ever if not for his injury with the Rams. His 4 good seasons with KC and his good season with Washington were all better than anything Alex has ever done. He just never had a defense worth a shit.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:00 AM   #7
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I've heard from multiple people who are high on this trade that Alex Smith has an "upside" of being Trent Green. What they don't understand is that Trent Green isn't good enough. We could sign Trent Green in his prime tomorrow, and he would never take us to a Superbowl.
Bullshit. Trent could and likely would have taken us to a Superbowl if he would have had even a decent defense.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:06 PM   #8
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Wall of text attempts to rationalize a shitty thing.

Wall of text fails.
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:32 AM   #9
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Wall of text attempts to rationalize a shitty thing.

Wall of text fails.
I'm not usually a tl;dr type of guy. I'll read shit, but I have a feeling this won't change my mind at all about Alex, so I'll pass.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:10 PM   #10
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As far as Trent Green goes, if you combine any Chiefs defense from the last couple of years with the offense from that 2002 or 2003 squad, we're probably talking about a team that at least gets the team to the AFC championship. All they ever needed was a defense that wasn't historically inept.

I don't think Alex Smith is even close to Trent Green, however.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:43 PM   #11
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As far as Trent Green goes, if you combine any Chiefs defense from the last couple of years with the offense from that 2002 or 2003 squad, we're probably talking about a team that at least gets the team to the AFC championship. All they ever needed was a defense that wasn't historically inept.

I don't think Alex Smith is even close to Trent Green, however.
On your first point I agree, but that offense was a dream with Holmes, Roaf, Shields, Gonzalez. Trent Green was very good, so it was altogether outstanding. I was always a fan of Trent Green. But he wasn't a franchise QB. He could have done his thing for another 7 years and never would have even been a discussion for Hall of Fame. I want the superstar QB, nothing less.

And to those saying Alex Smith isn't even close to Trent Green - I'm not so sure. You put him on that 2003 team, assume he plays at his 2012 form...whose to say? Neither of them takes us to the promised land so I really don't care.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:46 PM   #12
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And to those saying Alex Smith isn't even close to Trent Green - I'm not so sure.
I'm sure....alex smith will never even come close to being the qb that green was

2 different animals
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:26 PM   #13
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On your first point I agree, but that offense was a dream with Holmes, Roaf, Shields, Gonzalez. Trent Green was very good, so it was altogether outstanding. I was always a fan of Trent Green. But he wasn't a franchise QB. He could have done his thing for another 7 years and never would have even been a discussion for Hall of Fame. I want the superstar QB, nothing less.

And to those saying Alex Smith isn't even close to Trent Green - I'm not so sure. You put him on that 2003 team, assume he plays at his 2012 form...whose to say? Neither of them takes us to the promised land so I really don't care.
Trent wasn't a franchise quarterback in the sense that you couldn't put him on any team and any system and expect him to carry an offense like a Brady or Elway could.

But, if Green had ANY semblance of a defense with that Chiefs offense, he could easily win a SB.
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:13 PM   #14
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Before the trade: I want no part of Alex Smith for even a third rounder

Right after the trade: meh, I'm starting to warm up to the trade.

A month later: I'm so glad we got Alex Smith when we could

A couple weeks before the draft: this guy looks better and better the more I imagine him in a Chiefs jersey


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Old 04-10-2013, 10:26 PM   #15
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The only thing that makes Smith bearable is that we are not tied to him like we were with Cassel. Smith is the "Missouri Compromise 2013" between Reid, Dorsey, and Hunt. He's not(hopefully)going to be or look completely inept out there and will give Charles some breathing space. When he starts to slide, I guarantee Dorsey will have a legit prospect ready to take over, and his name will NOT be Chase "I'm here to sell a few cheap seats" Daniel.
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