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**Bowser** · 07-08-2021, 07:47 AM

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I wasn't quite as big of a fan of this episode. Loki just doesn't seem like Loki anymore. And an alligator? I dunno. Hoping Episode 6 is grand. It's only six episodes, right?

Yep, just six. And boo to your take, lol. I thought it was quirky and great. Plus they found a way to get the right hand scene in there, as well.

Just noticed that the official Disney+ site describing the series has a mistake in the description - it states the events of this series take place after the events of Endgame. That is incorrect, they take place after the first Avengers movie.

Sorce · 07-08-2021, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Yep, just six. And boo to your take, lol. I thought it was quirky and great. Plus they found a way to get the right hand scene in there, as well.

Just noticed that the official Disney+ site describing the series has a mistake in the description - it states the events of this series take place after the events of Endgame. That is incorrect, they take place after the first Avengers movie.

Didn't they mention that the Avengers were supposed to do their time heist stuff so it wasn't a nexus event. They are also jumping all around time so it's hard to say. My assumption was "Current" at the TVA is after Endgame even though they nabbed Loki from the past just after the first avengers and brought him forward.

**Bowser** · 07-08-2021, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorce

Didn't they mention that the Avengers were supposed to do their time heist stuff so it wasn't a nexus event. They are also jumping all around time so it's hard to say. My assumption was "Current" at the TVA is after Endgame even though they nabbed Loki from the past just after the first avengers and brought him forward.

Yeah quite possibly. Just from Loki's perspective is it right after the first Avengers flick. I guess they DID have the tape on him dying at the hands of Thanos....

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-08-2021, 11:58 AM

I realize that most people familiar with the comics expect the "Big Bad" to be Kang The Conqueror but I've thought all along that it's a Loki Variant pulling the strings, which is why so many Loki's have been pruned from the timeline.

The bigger question for me is where does "our" Loki fit? Does he eradicate the Loki running the TVA and if so, do he and Silvie go back to 2012? Or do they go to the main timeline (616) in 2024?

Where he fits back into the timeline is more important than who's behind the TVA, IMO. Hopefully, the series won't be open ended.

One more thing: Feige has said that some of the upcoming Marvel TV series could have a second season and before Loki aired, it was believed that Loki was a prime candidate for a Season 2, but after the way the events of this series have unfolded, I no longer think that's the case.

I sure hope the finale is better than TFATWS.

Jamie · 07-08-2021, 01:39 PM

I was in on the variant Loki theory (it fits the best thematically) until this most recent episode. After a room full of Lokis it would be a little underwhelming to have it be another Loki. And what would be the version? Best Loki? I guess it could be. The Loki that won trying to keep potential rival Lokis down by maintaining the timeline where he loses and dies.

I guess I still I think Immortus (who I maintain is distinct from Kang) is most likely. Another possibilty that I haven't seen discussed much is that it could be a variant of Ravona, or even Mobius.

GloucesterChief · 07-08-2021, 01:50 PM

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I was in on the variant Loki theory (it fits the best thematically) until this most recent episode. After a room full of Lokis it would be a little underwhelming to have it be another Loki. And what would be the version? Best Loki? I guess it could be. The Loki that won trying to keep potential rival Lokis down by maintaining the timeline where he loses and dies.

I guess I still I think Immortus (who I maintain is distinct from Kang) is most likely. Another possibilty that I haven't seen discussed much is that it could be a variant of Ravona, or even Mobius.

Could certainly be Immortus making sure that Kang turns into him rather than Rama Tut.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-08-2021, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

I was in on the variant Loki theory (it fits the best thematically) until this most recent episode. After a room full of Lokis it would be a little underwhelming to have it be another Loki. And what would be the version? Best Loki? I guess it could be. The Loki that won trying to keep potential rival Lokis down by maintaining the timeline where he loses and dies.

I guess I still I think Immortus (who I maintain is distinct from Kang) is most likely. Another possibilty that I haven't seen discussed much is that it could be a variant of Ravona, or even Mobius.

The problem with introducing Kang, or any other new villain at this point, is that it's just too much to pack into the finale. There just isn't enough time to fill in Kang's backstory and provide a satisfactory conclusion to the series.

Ant Man-Quantumania won't be released until some time in 2023, so it would be very strange for Marvel to use him as the main villain of Loki when he won't be seen again in the MCU for another 2 years.

I think it's more likely that a Loki is behind the TVA and our Loki defeats him, freeing all of the remaining Loki variants, including Young Loki, who will eventually appear in the Young Avengers.

**Tribal Warfare** · 07-08-2021, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The problem with introducing Kang, or any other new villain at this point, is that it's just too much to pack into the finale. There just isn't enough time to fill in Kang's backstory and provide a satisfactory conclusion to the series.

Ant Man-Quantumania won't be released until some time in 2023, so it would be very strange for Marvel to use him as the main villain of Loki when he won't be seen again in the MCU for another 2 years.

I think it's more likely that a Loki is behind the TVA and our Loki defeats him, freeing all of the remaining Loki variants, including Young Loki, who will eventually appear in the Young Avengers.

Originally I believed they were attempting to retcon Mutants in the MCU especially the TVA using the " Apocalypse" qualifier

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-08-2021, 02:43 PM

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Originally I believed they were attempting to retcon Mutants in the MCU especially the TVA using the " Apocalypse" qualifier

Yeah, that makes some sense but I think that when Marvel decides to introduce the X-Men, it'll be in a feature film and not a Disney+ TV series.

**Tribal Warfare** · 07-08-2021, 03:13 PM

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Yeah, that makes some sense but I think that when Marvel decides to introduce the X-Men, it'll be in a feature film and not a Disney+ TV series.

It could be a quick reveal that could be inserted in another property like Ant-Man's endcredit scene In Captain America: Civil War

Jamie · 07-14-2021, 02:22 AM

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I guess I still I think Immortus (who I maintain is distinct from Kang) is most likely.

Nailed it.

They didn't say Immortus, but that's who that was.

RunKC · 07-14-2021, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

Nailed it.

They didn't say Immortus, but that's who that was.

Great call. Can’t wait until we see the evil variant Kang. Not sure if that person comes in the new Ant Man or Dr Strange movie

**Baby Lee** · 07-08-2021, 04:05 PM

SO . . . MUCH . . . DETAIL. . .

This is nearly as fun as the episode itself.

07-08-2021, 11:58 AM	#5
DaneMcCloud Supporter DaneMcCloud's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA	I realize that most people familiar with the comics expect the "Big Bad" to be Kang The Conqueror but I've thought all along that it's a Loki Variant pulling the strings, which is why so many Loki's have been pruned from the timeline. The bigger question for me is where does "our" Loki fit? Does he eradicate the Loki running the TVA and if so, do he and Silvie go back to 2012? Or do they go to the main timeline (616) in 2024? Where he fits back into the timeline is more important than who's behind the TVA, IMO. Hopefully, the series won't be open ended. One more thing: Feige has said that some of the upcoming Marvel TV series could have a second season and before Loki aired, it was believed that Loki was a prime candidate for a Season 2, but after the way the events of this series have unfolded, I no longer think that's the case. I sure hope the finale is better than TFATWS.
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Jamie Veteran Jamie's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2002	I was in on the variant Loki theory (it fits the best thematically) until this most recent episode. After a room full of Lokis it would be a little underwhelming to have it be another Loki. And what would be the version? Best Loki? I guess it could be. The Loki that won trying to keep potential rival Lokis down by maintaining the timeline where he loses and dies. I guess I still I think Immortus (who I maintain is distinct from Kang) is most likely. Another possibilty that I haven't seen discussed much is that it could be a variant of Ravona, or even Mobius.
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Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000	SO . . . MUCH . . . DETAIL. . . This is nearly as fun as the episode itself.
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