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Old 10-10-2023, 08:45 PM  
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2024 WR Class

Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like?

1st - 2nd RD WR Targets:

Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6
Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5
Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41
Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35
Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22
Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48
Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42
Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38
Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46
Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31

*This entire class is tall WTF?

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Old 04-21-2024, 02:38 PM   #2761
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Final WR Rankings:

1. MHJ
2. Nabers
3. Odunze
4. BTJ
5. Mitchell
6. Worthy
7. Franklin
8. McConkey
9. Pearsall
10. Coleman
11. Legette
12. R. Wilson
13. Burton (not factoring in character concerns)
14. Baker
15. Walker
16. Polk
17. McMillan
18. Corley
19. J. Wilson
20. Rice
21. Cowing
22. M. Washington
23. Thrash
24. McCaffrey
25. T. Washington
It's a great list. Here is mine:
1. MHJ
2. Nabers
3. Odunze
GAP
4. Mitchell
5. Thomas
GAP
Guys with multirole tools:
6. Worthy
7. McConkey
8. Pearsall
9. Coleman
10. Legette
GAP
Guys who will be one outside role guys but good tools:
11. Franklin
12. Burton (character/coachability may take him off the board even for the Chiefs and probably should)
13. J. Wilson (could be a unicorn, would be about Vincent Jackson upside)
14. Baker
15. Polk
16. Walker
Slot /gadget guys:
17. McMillan
18. R. Wilson
19. Corley


Other guys I just love:
T. Washington
J. Coker
A. Smith

Guys I probably should revisit because I feel like I am not giving them enough credit:
M. Washington
J. Thrash
I. Williams
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Old 04-21-2024, 05:45 PM   #2762
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It's a great list. Here is mine:
1. MHJ
2. Nabers
3. Odunze
GAP
4. Mitchell
5. Thomas
GAP
Guys with multirole tools:
6. Worthy
7. McConkey
8. Pearsall
9. Coleman
10. Legette
GAP
Guys who will be one outside role guys but good tools:
11. Franklin
12. Burton (character/coachability may take him off the board even for the Chiefs and probably should)
13. J. Wilson (could be a unicorn, would be about Vincent Jackson upside)
14. Baker
15. Polk
16. Walker
Slot /gadget guys:
17. McMillan
18. R. Wilson
19. Corley


Other guys I just love:
T. Washington
J. Coker
A. Smith

Guys I probably should revisit because I feel like I am not giving them enough credit:
M. Washington
J. Thrash
I. Williams
What pushed Mitchel over btj for you? I could see him being the better pro if things go right but I haven’t seen anyone rank him above btj.
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Old 04-21-2024, 07:35 PM   #2763
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BTJ went #26 in NFL.coms latest mock draft.

THAT's the trade up scenario we should be praying for!

I'd be willing to use next year's 2nd and change if that helps us get into the 19-25 range for him.

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Old 04-21-2024, 07:57 PM   #2764
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DJ is gonna smile with this one. His hands worry me but this is the type of high ceiling player the Chiefs look for.

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Old 04-21-2024, 08:10 PM   #2765
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BTJ went #26 in NFL.coms latest mock draft.

THAT's the trade up scenario we should be praying for!

I'd be willing to use next year's 2nd and change if that helps us get into the 19-25 range for him.
Praying all the QBs go and someone gets crazy for some other positions lol if jizz if we got BTJ in the late 20s
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Old 04-22-2024, 12:35 AM   #2766
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What pushed Mitchel over btj for you? I could see him being the better pro if things go right but I haven’t seen anyone rank him above btj.
Mitchell has better hands and works man coverage better, imo. He more instinctively attacks leverage and exploits DBs. Like creating over commitment and then bursting to create separation. I also felt he had equal acceleration and better agility when he had the switch set to on, which means to me he has a higher capability than Thomas as a route runner. I guess I figure if you are going for all upside with either of these picks, you may as well go for the one with the higher upside.

The only real question I have relates to the plays he took off, why he doesn't play with more physicality, and why he plays so much slower against zone coverage. The answer to those questions will define how early he is taken, imo, because if you can fix it, he may be the best receiver in this class.

I did a thorough breakdown of him (thorough at least for me) earlier in this thread if you are interested - both strengths and weaknesses, with specific examples cited.
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Old 04-22-2024, 05:58 AM   #2767
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Mitchell has better hands and works man coverage better, imo. He more instinctively attacks leverage and exploits DBs. Like creating over commitment and then bursting to create separation. I also felt he had equal acceleration and better agility when he had the switch set to on, which means to me he has a higher capability than Thomas as a route runner. I guess I figure if you are going for all upside with either of these picks, you may as well go for the one with the higher upside.

The only real question I have relates to the plays he took off, why he doesn't play with more physicality, and why he plays so much slower against zone coverage. The answer to those questions will define how early he is taken, imo, because if you can fix it, he may be the best receiver in this class.

I did a thorough breakdown of him (thorough at least for me) earlier in this thread if you are interested - both strengths and weaknesses, with specific examples cited.
Well I hope you are right and the concerns off the field drop him to us.
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Old 04-22-2024, 07:33 AM   #2768
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Nightfyre, you definitely have your opinion which I respect. We're going to strongly disagree on Thomas and Mitchell being in the same stratosphere as route runners and that doesn't favor Mitchell. That isn't to say I don't think Mitchell is capable of it, I just think Thomas is much more complete.
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Old 04-22-2024, 07:34 AM   #2769
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Old 04-22-2024, 07:57 AM   #2770
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Old 04-22-2024, 10:57 AM   #2771
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Old 04-22-2024, 11:36 AM   #2772
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Can we start a rumor about BTJ not being able to brush his teeth with his dominant hand due to shoulder injury or something similar?
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Old 04-22-2024, 11:38 AM   #2773
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I would not think that a shoulder would be enough to drop BTJ but we can hope.
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Old 04-22-2024, 11:44 AM   #2774
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Nightfyre, you definitely have your opinion which I respect. We're going to strongly disagree on Thomas and Mitchell being in the same stratosphere as route runners and that doesn't favor Mitchell. That isn't to say I don't think Mitchell is capable of it, I just think Thomas is much more complete.
I hear you. I am also just going to leave this here. I hope Matt Harmon does something on BTJ soon, but basically I feel like Harmon's analysis lines up very well with my assessment. That's an NFL route tree with virtually zero schemed up, force fed production.

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Old 04-22-2024, 03:11 PM   #2775
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BTJ made it to 23 in today's fan vote PFF mock draft.

They provided 3-4 options per pick and fans polled their preferences live during the show.

We took WR McConkey over WR Franklin, OT Morgan, and DL Robinson.
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