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Old 05-24-2017, 02:23 PM  
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Game of Thrones Seasons 7-8
About to hit the 5000 post mark on the old thread, the first season 7 trailer today seems like the right time to start the final Game of Thones thread.

I'm going back to the original rules pre-2015. I don't think we need supervision or bannings. Just don't be a dick. Post anything you find online that hasn't aired yet inside of spoiler tags. That's pretty much it. I think we can all handle that...





For future us, 2015 thread is here: Link
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:05 AM   #781
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Tyrion could have the blood, but he's not a true Targaryen like Danny and(likely) Jon.
How's that?

Jon isn't a full blooded Targaryen....if that's what you're getting at. Tyrion would be her Uncle if you follow the rumor that the Mad King had sex with Tyrion's Mom.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:10 AM   #782
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Tyrion could have the blood, but he's not a true Targaryen like Danny and(likely) Jon.
Tyrion and Jon would be exactly the same. Targaryan father. Not sure who Danys mother is.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:11 AM   #783
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Mother's of Targaryan children die at birth, they bring it up an awful lot with Tyrion starting with season 1, and another reason why Cerise hates him.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:18 AM   #784
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How's that?

Jon isn't a full blooded Targaryen....if that's what you're getting at. Tyrion would be her Uncle if you follow the rumor that the Mad King had sex with Tyrion's Mom.
Because he wasn't married to Tyrions mom. That's why he would be a bastard. Jons parents more than likely were married, that's why Rhegar left his best knight to protect her and Jon.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:20 AM   #785
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Mother's of Targaryan children die at birth, they bring it up an awful lot with Tyrion starting with season 1, and another reason why Cerise hates him.
While this is true, Danny had two older brothers(one who's Jons father.).
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:29 AM   #786
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Dany is full blooded Targaryen.
Jon is half blood.
Tyrion is a ****ing Lannister.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:34 AM   #787
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:36 AM   #788
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I doubt they even explore the Tyrian Targaryan story line.
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Old 08-08-2017, 11:49 AM   #789
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Dany is full blooded Targaryen.
Jon is half blood.
Tyrion is a ****ing Lannister.
Except they keep hinting he is not. Also the whole scene where Tyrion frees them from the dungeon and the lineage storyline, they may not bring it up in the show but I bet he is in the last books.
One of my big contentions is Dany feeling she has a rite to the throne.... destiny maybe rite no.
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Maybe Jamie never gets to reveal who really killed Joffrey and Cersei somehow kills Tyrion and they don't have to explore that storyline or its discovered after he's killed.
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But when did all that start to happen?

Once they ran out of source material from Martin.

Sure, the TV series may well be a standard trope fantasy, and hell maybe the book ends up the same way (the original title of book 7 - "A Time for Wolves" - suggests that it very well may).

But when it takes 5+ books to start to get anywhere near that kind of routine, I'd say it's fairly difficult to call it 'brilliantly cloaked' rather than simply a different animal entirely that comes to a similar resolution.
My GUESS is that the key components at play will end up being the same in the books. Bran is the three-eyed raven, Sansa's a political schemer, Jon is a Targaryen King of the North, and Arya is an assassin.

But I definitely think that the paths they all used to get to where we are now could vary dramatically from what we've seen on the books so far.
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Speculation, not necessarily a spoiler due to anything that's been leaked.

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I think what sets this series apart from others in this genre is how rich and full the rest of the world they are set in is. In most series there is only a singular, albeit super powerful, baddie while in this one we have several villains with varying degrees of ability to mess things up for our intrepid heroes.

Not only are there a large number of baddies but they are all extremely well constructed and each with a real possibility of assuming power over the whole thing.

If it weren't for his horrendous pace... this series would eclipse LotR as my favorite fantasy series.

That and the many shades of gray (non-BDSM) involved. Good guys do bad things, bad guys do good things (or do bad things for understandable reasons) etc. etc.

I **LOVE** LOTR, but it's very black/white. There isn't an ounce of badness in Gandalf, or Sam, or Frodo, or Aragorn, and there isn't an ounce of goodness in any Orc ever, or Sauron, etc.

Here -- yeah, not so much.
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:20 PM   #794
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Except they keep hinting he is not. Also the whole scene where Tyrion frees them from the dungeon and the lineage storyline, they may not bring it up in the show but I bet he is in the last books.
One of my big contentions is Dany feeling she has a rite to the throne.... destiny maybe rite no.

The show hasn't even HINTED at Tyrion not being a Lannister, to be honest. Sure, there is some support for it in the books (even that is pretty thin IMHO), but in the HBO series, nada.
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