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View Poll Results: The first mass market Covid-19 vaccine in America will be created by...
Astrazeneca/University of Oxford (Viral Vector Vaccine – Great Britain) 12 16.67%
BioNTech/Pfizer (Genetic Vaccine – Europe) 3 4.17%
CanSino Biologics/China Academy of Military Medical Science (Viral Vector Vaccine - China) 0 0%
CureVac/Gates Foundation (Genetic Vaccine - Germany) 2 2.78%
Gamaleya Research Institute/Russia Ministry of Health (Viral Vector Vaccine - Russia) 3 4.17%
Johnson & Johnson/Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center (Viral Vector Vaccine - USA) 3 4.17%
Moderna/National Institute of Health (Genetic Vaccine - USA) 17 23.61%
Murdoch Children’s Research Institute (Repurposed Vaccine – Australia) 0 0%
North Korea State Commission on Science and Technology (Protein-Based and most likely completely fictional Vaccine – North Korea) 3 4.17%
Novavax (Protein-Based Vaccine - USA) 1 1.39%
Sinopharm/Wuhan Institute of Biological Products (Whole-Virus Vaccine – China) 0 0%
Sinovac (Whole-Virus Vaccine - China) 0 0%
Someone else (based in the United States) 5 6.94%
Someone else (based in Europe) 0 0%
Someone else (based in China) 2 2.78%
Someone else (based in some other country not mentioned above) 0 0%
I don't think there'll ever be a vaccine created 1 1.39%
I don't care, because I'll never take a vaccine. 7 9.72%
I don't know. Do I look like an expert on viral vaccine development to you? 13 18.06%
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Old 08-16-2020, 07:03 PM   Topic Starter
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Who will produce the first mass Covid vaccine?
Who's going to be the first to mass market in the USA? Cast your public vote in the poll. Here are the rules to determine the winner.

1. We're the USA. We don't care if the Chinese or Russians or North Koreans stick stuff in their people. Only the USA counts.

2. It'll be hard to get exact figures, but as a general rule let's count the winner as the first organization that gets vaccinations inside the bodies of 25 million Americans in at least 25 different states.

I'll include what I think are the leading contenders in the poll, and you can read about them here, as of August 16th, 2020:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng...avirus-vaccine

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...stitute%20one.
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Old 08-16-2020, 07:12 PM   #2
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Personally, I think it's a two-horse race between Astrazeneca and Moderna. They both seemed to get off to a fast start. The stock market seems to like Novavax's chances, so maybe they're in the mix, too, but it seems like they started out a bit behind.

I think the Russian one is nothing more than a premature Phase 3 testing on an unwilling population, so it'll be behind on approvals, and I don't see a Chinese vaccine having any chance for approval in the USA unless there's no other choice.

The North Korean one makes me laugh. They're claiming to be working on it, but they also claim that there are no Covid cases in North Korea so they can't test it. You know they'll come up with some sort of ginseng kimchii pill eight years from now.
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Old 08-16-2020, 07:20 PM   #3
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Old 08-16-2020, 07:21 PM   #4
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Old 08-16-2020, 07:23 PM   #5
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Old 08-16-2020, 07:31 PM   #6
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Old 08-17-2020, 08:20 AM   #7
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Doesn't seem like there is a strong backing for them. I bought in at 80cents and rode it up to 6.21 when I bailed. It cratered since then though, and continues to trickle down in value. I think last I checked it was around 2.60-ish.

The IBM Watson thing was a cool step for them same with getting added to the Russell 2000 and 3000, but I don't think they are a true player.
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Old 08-16-2020, 07:32 PM   #8
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Old 08-16-2020, 07:46 PM   #9
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What, no antifreeze option?
That's the North Korean option. It looks like you're first in line.
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Old 08-16-2020, 07:52 PM   #10
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Old 08-16-2020, 07:57 PM   #11
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Whatever company can convince dumb American antivaxxers to take it IMO
My wife and I were chatting the other day, and she expressed concern that antivaxxers would ruin the effectiveness of vaccines. My response was that I don't care that much as long as I'm vaccinated. If people enjoy getting sick, and they only infect other people who enjoy getting sick, then the only downside for me is hearing their annoying coughing and dying when I'm out on the town.

She did bring up the good point, though, that if people have permanent medical issues as a result, they could drag down the economy. I guess that's a good point.
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My wife and I were chatting the other day, and she expressed concern that antivaxxers would ruin the effectiveness of vaccines. My response was that I don't care that much as long as I'm vaccinated. If people enjoy getting sick, and they only infect other people who enjoy getting sick, then the only downside for me is hearing their annoying coughing and dying when I'm out on the town.

She did bring up the good point, though, that if people have permanent medical issues as a result, they could drag down the economy. I guess that's a good point.
Nothing ruins a night on the town like a bunch of people coughing and dying. I hate that shit.
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My wife and I were chatting the other day, and she expressed concern that antivaxxers would ruin the effectiveness of vaccines. My response was that I don't care that much as long as I'm vaccinated. If people enjoy getting sick, and they only infect other people who enjoy getting sick, then the only downside for me is hearing their annoying coughing and dying when I'm out on the town.

She did bring up the good point, though, that if people have permanent medical issues as a result, they could drag down the economy. I guess that's a good point.
Was having this conversation yesterday. There aren't enough antivaxxers to make a dent. What to worry about is regular people who turn into covid antivaxxers. Not only for the health and safety, but because it affects the economy. I won't necessarily be first in line to get a vaccine, as they should improve over time and I would like to see the safety data first. But, if I had to choose right now, take the first vaccine available or never take one at all, I'm rolling up my sleeve.
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Was having this conversation yesterday. There aren't enough antivaxxers to make a dent. What to worry about is regular people who turn into covid antivaxxers. Not only for the health and safety, but because it affects the economy. I won't necessarily be first in line to get a vaccine, as they should improve over time and I would like to see the safety data first. But, if I had to choose right now, take the first vaccine available or never take one at all, I'm rolling up my sleeve.
Yeah, that's pretty much where I stand.

If I was to guess, my spot in line is about where I'll want it to be. They'll give vaccines to health care workers and seniors and first responders and the military first. I'll be next in line as a 50-something person, and by then I'll know if those people have turned into werewolves or zombies. But if I had to take it on Day One or not at all, I'll be right there with you. I wish to walk the streets with impunity again.
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