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02-17-2018, 11:40 PM | #1501 |
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According to the posts above it is HOSMER'S option, not the teams. If this is true this is an abysmal deal.
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02-17-2018, 11:47 PM | #1502 |
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02-17-2018, 11:49 PM | #1503 | |
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02-17-2018, 11:52 PM | #1504 |
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BTW, I fully expect Hosmer to rape the next two years. Probably having a career year one of those years, but then falling drastically back to earth becoming a avg or below avg 1st baseman again who cant play any other position. But that means you are still essentially paying 144M for a few years of above avg production.
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02-17-2018, 11:57 PM | #1505 | |
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We already had this conversation. You made that statement. I refuted it. The Dodgers are the only team in that group set up for long-term success. |
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02-18-2018, 12:00 AM | #1506 | |
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Thats lighting money on fire. 8.6M surely is not the going rate per WAR. That would be like giving Josh Donaldson a 1 year 80M deal. |
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02-18-2018, 12:38 AM | #1507 |
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02-18-2018, 12:43 AM | #1508 |
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02-18-2018, 01:12 AM | #1509 |
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02-18-2018, 02:48 AM | #1510 |
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I think this team can win now we need to sign hosmer replacement or put whit there and have mondi at 2nd.
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02-18-2018, 03:01 AM | #1511 |
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So we get what like 30th pick in the draft for this?
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02-18-2018, 05:12 AM | #1512 |
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Sign Morrison and Moose and our roster gets better than had we just signed Hosmer.
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02-18-2018, 07:30 AM | #1513 | |
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$9 million/WAR is about the going rate for WAR on the market, or at least it has been. True superstar performers like Trout can't get that, but for guys in the 1-2 WAR range, that's been the rate. At 9/WAR, Hosmer would need to provide 16 wins over he course of the deal, or an average of 2/year, to be neutral value on this deal. I don't believe many teams calculate defensive value for 1B the way Fangraphs especially or even bref does, because otherwise they'd believe stone-handed butchers like Ryan Howard, Chris Carter, Jose Antrim, etc. are better defenders at 1B than Hosmer, and that makes zero sense. That's a significant die driver in Hosmer's defensive value and overall value. It's a deal with some real risk for the Padres, but they structured it smartly, and his opt-out IS potentially exercisable. |
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02-18-2018, 07:58 AM | #1514 |
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with hosmer signing do we assume that the market has now been set and the other pieces will start to fall?
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02-18-2018, 08:00 AM | #1515 |
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That deal is creative in regards to Boras. If Hos plays to his contract he will opt out and sign for more somewhere else. If he doesn’t the Padres are stuck with him, its just like the Kennedy deal.
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