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FloridaMan88 · 02-02-2009, 09:59 AM

As if they hadn't started already...

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...&position=also

Matt Cassel draws interest

TAMPA - They might not have been one of the two Super Bowl participants last night, but the Patriots [team stats] still generated a lot of talk on Radio Row during the week.

With Matt Cassel making the rounds, there was plenty of speculation on how much interest he would draw should the Pats apply the franchise tag and then trade him.

The pundits’ top pick to land Cassel in that scenario is Kansas City. Obviously, the Scott Pioli factor weighs heavily in that choice, with the Pats former vice president of player personnel now calling the shots for the Chiefs.

“I’d really look at Pioli down there in Kansas City. Why wouldn’t he want him?” Sirius NFL radio analyst Jim Miller said. “He knows what the kid is capable of doing. So I think he’d be on their radar.”

Miller, like most analysts, doesn’t see the crop of quarterbacks in this year’s NFL Draft as particularly appealing. That boosts the draw for Cassel, especially if Pioli decides he’s not satisfied with the collection of QBs he inherited after taking over the job.

“I don’t think this is a strong quarterback draft. Everybody is saying Matthew Stafford of Georgia and Mark Sanchez of USC are going to go in the Top 10. I don’t believe that,” Miller said. “I don’t think those guys are ready. And I don’t think you’ll see the type of success guys like Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco had. They just haven’t played enough. So I can’t see teams wanting them.

“But if Kansas (City) were to make that deal, that’s their Matt Ryan. That’s their Joe Flacco. Unlike a Sanchez, for instance, they know he’s playing at a starter’s level. So to them, I think it’d be worth it to do. They’d get their starting quarterback, they know what he’s capable of doing, and they’ve seen him win games at the NFL level.”

Other experts, meanwhile, aren’t sure Pioli would want to deal with his former boss right out of the gate.

Some other teams figuring to make a pitch for Cassel include the New York Jets, Detroit, Minnesota, San Francisco, Carolina, Tampa Bay and Chicago.

As for what Cassel would land in a trade, there were differing opinions. Miller, for one, thought he would cost a second-round draft choice.

The decision to trade or keep Cassel will ultimately depend on Tom Brady [stats]’s health. While reports have him on target to play in the season opener, he still has a few hurdles to clear before that point following reconstructive surgery on his left knee and a subsequent staph infection.

“I think a lot is going to depend on where Kevin O’Connell is in his development. If they feel they can move Matt to benefit their team, they’ll do it,” said Miller, a one-time Pats backup quarterback. “It’s rolling the dice on Tom and whether he’s healthy, and two, can they do it with Kevin O’Connell? The question they have to ask is if O’Connell is as capable of what they have in Matt Cassel?”

Garcia Bronco · 02-02-2009, 10:00 AM

If it helps I ran into his brother at the GAP yesterday.

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

If it helps I ran into his brother at the GAP yesterday.

I did too! He told me that Matt bought a house in KC....

Brock · 02-02-2009, 10:03 AM

I'd take him for the right compensation, I guess.

DaWolf · 02-02-2009, 10:03 AM

Well if we're not sold on either Stafford or Sanchez that high, if NE would go for the 2nd rounder it may not be such a bad move. I'm not really sure on Cassel, he may be this year's Derek Anderson, but if Pioli and the next HC believe he can run the offense they want to employ well, then you use the #3 on defense or on the OL, or trade down, and then trade the 2nd rounder for your QB...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2009, 10:04 AM

We should trade our #1 for Cassel, then trade our 2nd round pick for Derek Anderson.

CupidStunt · 02-02-2009, 10:08 AM

I trust Pioli. I'm not certain this guy can win a championship, but I'm less certain Sanchez and Stafford can.

$75 million for Sanchez and a second-round unknown, or Cassell and Orakpo/whoever?

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We should trade our #1 for Cassel, then trade our 2nd round pick for Derek Anderson.

lol. Let's trade all our picks for QB's. One of them has to be good. Maybe our 3rd for John Beck or Vick? Who else can we get with our picks? *SIGH*

And by the way, I really wish that QB from Utah wasn't so freaking short. He would be a perfect NFL QB. He's listed at 6'1", but I've seen 6'. He has such a good work ethic and understands how to use tape to get better.... GROW 3 INCHES BRYAN!

Bill Lundberg · 02-02-2009, 10:15 AM

What if we swap first round picks with NE for Cassel? Would that be too much or too little?

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-02-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

“I’d really look at Pioli down there in Kansas City. Why wouldn’t he want him?” Sirius NFL radio analyst Jim Miller said. “He knows what the kid is capable of doing. So I think he’d be on their radar.”

He also knows what the kid is NOT capable of doing. So I think he'd not be on their radar.

See how easy it is to speculate?

EyePod · 02-02-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

What if we swap first round picks with NE for Cassel? Would that be too much or too little?

This would be OK. I like to get a 3rd or a 4th in the deal too though. I just keep remember what our last NE backup QB was capable of, and I get scared...

**The Franchise** · 02-02-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

What if we swap first round picks with NE for Cassel? Would that be too much or too little?

That would basically make Cassell worth a mid 1st round pick. So yeah....that's too much to give up for him.

philfree · 02-02-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

What if we swap first round picks with NE for Cassel? Would that be too much or too little?

We still have seven picks and we gain our starting QB

We'd be in a good position to draft someone like Duke Robinson and a pass rusher like M. Johnson. Considering the talent at the top of this draft is iffy I think I could deal with it.

PhilFree

BigCatDaddy · 02-02-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

That would basically make Cassell worth a mid 1st round pick. So yeah....that's too much to give up for him.

I don't see why NE would want to move up to pay a buttload of money for any player at the top of this years draft. They would probably rather take the 2.

**DeezNutz** · 02-02-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We should trade our #1 for Cassel, then trade our 2nd round pick for Derek Anderson.

Great point.

We should also consider sending NE our 3rd rounder for Pioli. Just because.

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