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Old 07-08-2022, 10:29 AM   #2
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Assuming there wasn't anything weird going on to explain it, the truck is complete ****ing dog shit as anything but a grocery getter. Which is fine if that is how it's marketed. I've considered getting my mom one if it rolled out ok as 90% of her use would be that and picking up grandkids, so it'd be perfect for her but a 6k trailer just murdered that thing for most people.



I don't think they mentioned it, but I noticed it was actually in the drafting position behind the gas truck in a lot of the clips during the video. That makes a huge difference and would make the performance even worse in a non drafting test.
PHEVs are kind of shat upon by EV purists, but honestly they're probably the better solution to someone who wants a lot of the benefits of an EV but needs towing range. Unfortunately, I'm not sure many truck brands are developing them.
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Old 07-08-2022, 10:53 AM   #3
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PHEVs are kind of shat upon by EV purists, but honestly they're probably the better solution to someone who wants a lot of the benefits of an EV but needs towing range. Unfortunately, I'm not sure many truck brands are developing them.
They'd probably be a decent bridge for a good chunk of the customer base who only tows to the lake or track on the weekends and never gets too far out of warranty coverage. I bet a lot of people would enjoy running on electric during the work week and using gas to extend the range on the weekend.

I'm all about simple though and two systems and still having all the maintenance just mentally kills it for me. Just give me the impossible dammit! I'm not going to live forever!
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Old 07-08-2022, 11:35 AM   #4
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PHEVs are kind of shat upon by EV purists, but honestly they're probably the better solution to someone who wants a lot of the benefits of an EV but needs towing range. Unfortunately, I'm not sure many truck brands are developing them.
They are if you can only have one car. I'd rather have one gas car and one pure EV so I can do whatever I need but not be lugging around an extra propulsion system.
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Old 07-08-2022, 12:08 PM   #5
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They are if you can only have one car. I'd rather have one gas car and one pure EV so I can do whatever I need but not be lugging around an extra propulsion system.
It’s not a propulsion system it’s a generator, right?
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Old 07-08-2022, 12:27 PM   #6
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It’s not a propulsion system it’s a generator, right?
Yes, and even hybrids without plug-in capability are more efficient than straight gas cars, so obviously the benefits outweigh the drawbacks of extra weight and complexity.

For my situation, considering the cost of buying a new car, I'm probably going to wait until an EV is available that meets my needs that can act as a daily driver, and use my existing gas truck for the rare occasions (long trip, heavy towing) that the EV won't cut it. I think I'll get the most benefit that way as I will almost always be driving a full EV without carrying any gas equipment, but will still have the ability to do the things a full EV can't.
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Old 07-08-2022, 01:45 PM   #7
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It’s not a propulsion system it’s a generator, right?
Eh, it's really both. But that's just a technicality.

As for maintenance, there's really zero added by the EV system, but you do add some additional potential failure points.
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Old 07-08-2022, 12:06 PM   #8
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PHEVs are kind of shat upon by EV purists, but honestly they're probably the better solution to someone who wants a lot of the benefits of an EV but needs towing range. Unfortunately, I'm not sure many truck brands are developing them.
That’s a viable solution for my truck usage. At least the one I drive. The farm truck that gets trailers probably not.

I want that damned electric semi.
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