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Old 06-23-2021, 02:46 PM   #2
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Are they official candidates? Hadn't heard that...

I'd say the likelihood a guy who won Superbowls in New York and is named Manning has a good chance....

Rivers accomplished some things most guys don't, sure. Wouldn't he be the only QB to never appear in a SB in the hall? Don't know if he's got as much chance, unless of course his children are voting.
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Old 06-23-2021, 02:53 PM   #3
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Are they official candidates? Hadn't heard that...
Every former NFL player is eligible for the Hall of Fame five years after they've retired, so neither is on the 2021 ballot
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Old 06-23-2021, 03:49 PM   #4
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Wonder how many SB's Rivers could have won with the NYG and some of those good defenses and players?
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Old 06-23-2021, 04:18 PM   #5
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Wonder how many SB's Rivers could have won with the NYG and some of those good defenses and players?
Zero because he would have negated that with an untimely interception.

Also don’t forget that the Chargers had one of the most talented rosters in the NFL during the first 5-6 years of his career as a starting QB.
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Old 06-23-2021, 04:28 PM   #6
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Wonder how many SB's Rivers could have won with the NYG and some of those good defenses and players?
He played on several Chargers teams with Super Bowl talent on both sides. They just always choked.
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Old 06-23-2021, 04:00 PM   #7
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For some reason I don't have much problem with Rivers going in, but shudder at the thought of Matt Ryan going in. No clue why. Especially given that if Rivers was on Atlanta, they never would have made it to that one super bowl. Guess I need to reconsider.
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Old 06-25-2021, 06:45 AM   #8
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For some reason I don't have much problem with Rivers going in, but shudder at the thought of Matt Ryan going in. No clue why. Especially given that if Rivers was on Atlanta, they never would have made it to that one super bowl. Guess I need to reconsider.
Matt Ryan definitely gets in as well... same with Stafford, bank on it.
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Old 06-23-2021, 04:44 PM   #9
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Rivers was literally so addicted to F-ing up games that he fumbled the snap on a kneel down.
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Old 06-25-2021, 06:43 AM   #10
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Well, we are in the era of great stats and longevity = HOF

Eli won 2 rings and had a fairly solid career... not shocked at all and yes, he will get into the HOF. #8 career passing yards / #9 career TDs

Fun oddity, 117/117 record.

Rivers... yeah, no way to really defend it. Ranks higher than Eli on some stats rankings. And, has actually won more games with a 134-106 record and played 1 more season.
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Old 06-25-2021, 08:24 AM   #11
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Well, we are in the era of great stats and longevity = HOF

Eli won 2 rings and had a fairly solid career... not shocked at all and yes, he will get into the HOF. #8 career passing yards / #9 career TDs

Fun oddity, 117/117 record.

Rivers... yeah, no way to really defend it. Ranks higher than Eli on some stats rankings. And, has actually won more games with a 134-106 record and played 1 more season.
The longevity is indeed a key factor.

The rules are set up now so quarterbacks seldom get hit, and the market is set up so they make massive amounts of money. As a result, quarterbacks have no real incentive to retire. They play forever, never get hurt, and pile up stats in an era that's specifically tailored for them to pile up stats. Over the next decade, we may see a number of mediocre quarterbacks pile up 60,000 career passing yards. Rivers is the first of those, and "The Other Manning" was a season away.

The only thing that can keep a quarterback from compiling lots of stats these days is if he gets beat out by a younger quarterback.
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Old 06-25-2021, 06:57 AM   #12
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Empty stats are just that, empty stats. The way I look at the QB position is like this. When the game is on the line, can he put the team on his back and win? Not just once or twice, but week in and week out. Rivers -- biggest choker in the NFL. Eli --the D won those SBs, he just put enough points on the board. Ryan -- bitch, please. Stafford -- maybe someday. Guys like Dawson, Montana, Unitas, Aikman, and Farve (just to name a few) are true HoFers.
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Old 06-25-2021, 07:33 AM   #13
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Empty stats are just that, empty stats. The way I look at the QB position is like this. When the game is on the line, can he put the team on his back and win? Not just once or twice, but week in and week out. Rivers -- biggest choker in the NFL. Eli --the D won those SBs, he just put enough points on the board. Ryan -- bitch, please. Stafford -- maybe someday. Guys like Dawson, Montana, Unitas, Aikman, and Farve (just to name a few) are true HoFers.
My problem with Rivers isn't stats. How many times did he even win his own division? Almost never and there wasn't even a stud QB in it stopping him for many years.
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Eli Manning Record is 117-117.......... He is a .500 QB that happened to win two Super Bowls.

Wtf are we even entertaining this for? Those two rings have more to do with his defense (esp in fist SB) than him. For christ sakes he threw up a prayer to win the first one.

There is nothing HoF about Eli Manning, if you are saying he deserves to go into HoF because of 4-ish plays in two different SB's you duuuumb.

He threw for a grand total of 500 yards and 3TDs in two SB's.....
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