***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Mecca

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/11/mark...-standard.html

“Whatever the White House is doing for the president and vice president, that’s the protocol I want to use for my employees. And if I can’t adhere to that, then why would I put them at risk?” said Cuban, who added he’s still not going out to eat at restaurants, even though Texas started to allow limited dine-in service.

Most Americans do not have access to daily Covid-19 testing, Cuban said, and “that’s the problem.” He said Americans have to effectively ask themselves: “Who can we trust with our lives?”

Cuban laying it down....

Cuban suggesting we need to have access to daily testing for everyone across the country before going back to normal is not laying it down, its being a ****ing moron.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

You seem to be a proponent of opening everything up now. Is that not correct?

No, that’s not correct.

It depends where and I think you have to ease into it either way.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It was just mothers day weekend so I assume that has some kind of effect.

They're very low today as well.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

No, that’s not correct.

It depends where and I think you have to ease into it either way.

Okay, great.

Now, how about "hiding at home" and wide opening things up. Do you see any middle ground between those two?

[O.city]

Whats going to change between now and July for them to start training camp? It sucks.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

1)You seem to be conflating a lack of the NFL with hiding inside. They are not synonomous.

2) Peter King is not an epidemiologist, nor is Albert Breer, or anyone at the NFL Network, ESPN, or WHB that I'm aware of.

3) No one in public health has said that we need to hide inside until there is a vaccine. What has been said quite often by people who have argued against public health measures is that those that wanted a shutdown think we need a full shutdown until the vaccine. It's a dishonest, bad faith argument made by those that have consistently underplayed the seriousness of the virus to make those urging for a more serious approach look like fearmongers.

I find it hard to believe theres a scenario where mostly everybody would be back to work, but there’d be no football/sports.

[O.city]

Best bet is we slowly start opening up, don't see a spike. Keep slowly opening up and no spikes. Then you can slowly get back to normal.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

They're very low today as well.

Even for weekend numbers, they seem very low.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Whats going to change between now and July for them to start training camp? It sucks.

If nothing has changed between now and July this has all be a waste of time.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

If nothing has changed between now and July this has all be a waste of time.

If we're still chugging along with this amount of deaths per day by then, yeah, it won't be pretty

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Whats going to change between now and July for them to start training camp? It sucks.

Hopefully, a nation-wide reduction in new cases and respective deaths.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Okay, great.

Now, how about "hiding at home" and wide opening things up. Do you see any middle ground between those two?

Yes I do, but I also believe at some point you just have to say we tried and it’s time to go back to normal. I’m nowhere near there, but months from now? Possibly.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

If we're still chugging along with this amount of deaths per day by then, yeah, it won't be pretty

Just imagine what it would have possibly been like without the mitigation efforts we've enacted.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

If nothing has changed between now and July this has all be a waste of time.

Exactly.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yes I do, but I also believe at some point you just have to say we tried and it’s time to go back to normal. I’m nowhere near there, but months from now? Possibly.

Great, which is why I asked the question about what makes more sense.