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Old 03-15-2024, 07:01 PM   #2
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He wasn't at the time of the acquisition. A 13 sack starting DE for a late 2nd is incredible value.
People knew exactly who he was and how one dimensional Ford played.

Clark was valued dramatically higher at the time as a 3-down player yet you’re inconsistently just judging him by the results after the fact.

There wasn’t any great value for the 49ers getting an oft-injured Ford and having to give him a huge contract. Are you high?
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Old 03-15-2024, 07:10 PM   #3
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People knew exactly who he was and how one dimensional Ford played.

Clark was valued dramatically higher at the time as a 3-down player yet you’re inconsistently just judging him by the results after the fact.

There wasn’t any great value for the 49ers getting an oft-injured Ford and having to give him a huge contract. Are you high?
They shared similar profiles. Clark was obviously more explosive but the discrepancy wasn't to the point of dishing out a first and a second.
I am not saying Seattle fleeced us but surely Veach had more leverage than he realized at the time. You can draft your own DE with that compensation by moving up in the first.
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Old 03-15-2024, 07:29 PM   #4
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They shared similar profiles. Clark was obviously more explosive but the discrepancy wasn't to the point of dishing out a first and a second.
I am not saying Seattle fleeced us but surely Veach had more leverage than he realized at the time. You can draft your own DE with that compensation by moving up in the first.
My God, look at the 2019 draft... light on edge players. Maybe we get Montez Sweat, but why take that chance. We needed Clark and Mahomes was on a rookie deal. He didn't live up to the contract in the regular seasons, but he flat out balled in the playoffs. So we overpaid, who gives a ****. Take that into consideration with the new "dog" attitude he helped bring to the D and it lead to a SB the same year...all
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Old 03-15-2024, 07:44 PM   #5
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They shared similar profiles. Clark was obviously more explosive but the discrepancy wasn't to the point of dishing out a first and a second.
I am not saying Seattle fleeced us but surely Veach had more leverage than he realized at the time. You can draft your own DE with that compensation by moving up in the first.
He was traded for a 2019 first and a 2020 second. That's basically equivalent to a first and a third in the upcoming draft.

Who were they supposed to go up and get in that draft with that trade compensation?

(PS - I know for a fact that Montez Sweat was not on their draft board for injury reasons.)

The Clark trade didn't end up being great. The Ford trade ended up being perfectly fine. Hill was traded for market value.

Ridiculous to say he doesn't know how to handle high end trades as a result of that small sample size.
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