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Old 11-03-2020, 08:24 AM   #2
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Its called being objective.

The guy was MVP last season and voted #1 player by those actually playing the game and you want to call me a Ravens fan because i think he is a good QB? **** outta here.
Being voted MVP is not objective. Being voted #1 player is not objective.

Sorry, but those two things are, by definition, subjective. They are literally popularity contests.

You can't deny it, you're a Lamar Jackson fan. You continuously prop him up here despite his shortcomings. You desperately want Lamar Jackson to be a top tier QB and it shows. I don't know if it's because he's unconventional or because he's black but you are obviously invested in him being successful beyond just watching the games.

The problem is that he really isn't. He's a very good dual-threat player, which in the NFL does not translate to being a great QUARTERBACK.
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Old 11-03-2020, 09:21 AM   #3
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Being voted MVP is not objective. Being voted #1 player is not objective.

Sorry, but those two things are, by definition, subjective. They are literally popularity contests.

You can't deny it, you're a Lamar Jackson fan. You continuously prop him up here despite his shortcomings. You desperately want Lamar Jackson to be a top tier QB and it shows. I don't know if it's because he's unconventional or because he's black but you are obviously invested in him being successful beyond just watching the games.

The problem is that he really isn't. He's a very good dual-threat player, which in the NFL does not translate to being a great QUARTERBACK.
I don't think Lamar is a top 5 QB but I think you are a bit too low on a QB that has a 24-5 starting record. He's a very dangerous player.

Luckily for the Chiefs our guy is generational.
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Old 11-03-2020, 03:40 PM   #4
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Being voted MVP is not objective. Being voted #1 player is not objective.

Sorry, but those two things are, by definition, subjective. They are literally popularity contests.

You can't deny it, you're a Lamar Jackson fan. You continuously prop him up here despite his shortcomings. You desperately want Lamar Jackson to be a top tier QB and it shows. I don't know if it's because he's unconventional or because he's black but you are obviously invested in him being successful beyond just watching the games.

The problem is that he really isn't. He's a very good dual-threat player, which in the NFL does not translate to being a great QUARTERBACK.
I wouldn't say I'm a fan I just feel he doesn't get the credit he deserves w a lot of fans because of his style of play. I enjoy watching him play but I enjoy watching a lot of players play.
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Old 11-03-2020, 03:42 PM   #5
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I wouldn't say I'm a fan I just feel he doesn't get the credit he deserves w a lot of fans because of his style of play. I enjoy watching him play but I enjoy watching a lot of players play.
He's for sure fun to watch. I enjoy it.
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Old 11-03-2020, 05:14 PM   #6
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He's for sure fun to watch. I enjoy it.
Chiefs fans inferiority complex showing a bit. The second someone is even compared to Mahomes (a terrible comparison IMHO), KC fans have to hate him with a passion.

And Mahomes will be compared to lots of guys in his career, just like people were always trying to find Tiger Woods' rival.
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Old 11-03-2020, 03:45 PM   #7
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I wouldn't say I'm a fan I just feel he doesn't get the credit he deserves w a lot of fans because of his style of play. I enjoy watching him play but I enjoy watching a lot of players play.
For me, he'll get my respect when he starts winning the big games. Unfortunately, I think it's his style of play that is preventing that.

So for me, he's really not going to be more than he is now. To win in the NFL, you have to be a good passer and Lamar really isn't.

It isn't so much that I don't enjoy watching him play - I watched the Giants play last night.

It's more about the discussion here. I don't dislike Lamar Jackson, I just think he's overrated.
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Old 11-03-2020, 03:45 PM   #8
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I wouldn't say I'm a fan I just feel he doesn't get the credit he deserves w a lot of fans because of his style of play.
He doesn't get the "credit he deserves" because he doesn't deserve it.
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Old 11-03-2020, 05:16 PM   #9
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He doesn't get the "credit he deserves" because he doesn't deserve it.
Lamar has deserved everything he got, including the MVP - last year was just unreal.

But if you can't sustain it then the haters come out.
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Old 11-03-2020, 05:36 PM   #10
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Lamar has deserved everything he got, including the MVP - last year was just unreal.
I don't know if it was unreal but he had a nice year for sure.

MVP? I'm not so sure about that.

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But if you can't sustain it then the haters come out.
I don't think "hate" is the correct word but Lamar was the MVP last year, despite the fact that he only threw for 3,127 yards.

He's also been unable to win a single playoff game against lower competition, which IMO, doesn't equal MVP.
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Old 11-03-2020, 05:47 PM   #11
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I don't know if it was unreal but he had a nice year for sure.

MVP? I'm not so sure about that.



I don't think "hate" is the correct word but Lamar was the MVP last year, despite the fact that he only threw for 3,127 yards.

He's also been unable to win a single playoff game against lower competition, which IMO, doesn't equal MVP.
MVP is not a post season award.

He led the league in passing tds, was top 10 in completion percentage and 6th most rushing yards with 7 more rushing tds added on.

He was 3rd in qb rating and 1st in qbr. He only had 6 ints.

He did add 8 fumbles but only lost 2.

Thats a pretty good statistical season.
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I wouldn't say I'm a fan I just feel he doesn't get the credit he deserves w a lot of fans because of his style of play. I enjoy watching him play but I enjoy watching a lot of players play.
He gets plenty of credit. He did win an mvp.
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I wouldn't say I'm a fan I just feel he doesn't get the credit he deserves w a lot of fans because of his style of play. I enjoy watching him play but I enjoy watching a lot of players play.
You just said nothing.
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Its called being objective.

The guy was MVP last season and voted #1 player by those actually playing the game and you want to call me a Ravens fan because i think he is a good QB? **** outta here.
Please watch your language
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Its called being objective.

The guy was MVP last season and voted #1 player by those actually playing the game and you want to call me a Ravens fan because i think he is a good QB? **** outta here.
No, we call you a dumb****. And it's for a lot of reasons, but also because you think Lamar is a good QB.
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