***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

No way. I actually don’t expect too much of a bump in cases but that will be attributed to the warmer weather. But as soon as the rioting goes away and fall comes back, the same outlets will be all over coronavirus again, manufacturing outrage, and demanding distancing, shutdowns, etc. Make no mistake about it.

It always makes me laugh when the media reports the what experts tell them and then people claim the media is the one who is to blame for people panicking...

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Nice to see Hamas put a nail in the coffin of the legitimacy of this thread and his opinions.

Age, kids and a health scare sure didn’t put a dent in his arrogance

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

Agree, thing is my new job wants me to start asap. They are actually not hurting at all since they develop software for e-learning. I'm leaning towards just taking the job and telling them that the furlough has put financial stress on me and my family and I have an employer that is wiling to pay me full time and wants me to start now so sorry about it.

I should mention I don't have anything to hand off as I we never started anything this year due to all the craziness. I just don't see the point in a two week notice and obviously they need to save the money anyway. But for some reason something nags at me about it. I Think its just the company will find a way to spin it like I am an asshole for not putting in a notice and I do like some of my co workers.

I don’t think you should feel overly responsible to a company that can’t keep you employed and I don’t think they would fault you for moving on. I think ultimately though it sounds like you have to ask yourself if it matters if they spin it to make you look bad.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

It always makes me laugh when the media reports the what experts tell them and then people claim the media is the one who is to blame for people panicking...

[Naptown Chief]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

It always makes me laugh when the media reports the what experts tell them and then people claim the media is the one who is to blame for people panicking...

The media IS partly to blame. Nobody took this seriously initially. Some outright dismissed it. Trump too. This should never have been a party issue, but an American.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Oh THAT’S what’s going on

Holy shit some of you are unbelievable. And you had the nerve to call me a “bitch ass hoe” lmao

I can’t speak for others but I don’t come here much anymore because of trolls like you who make everything a zero sum game of arguing straw men. I could give a f about the media fear mongering or the politicians. I’ve only ever cared about the science, and as a pandemic unfolds before our eyes the science has been incredible and messy all at the same time, truly unprecedented. Science is always changing and testing hypothesis, and that’s why I trust it above all, but understand it can and will change direction as more research is done. That’s the scientific method, and about the only thing one can find any truth in even as its changing at warp speed.

[Naptown Chief]

I'll go back to lurking this thread. As much trolling as I've done, it'd be kinda funny if this is what gets me banned from here

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Kidd Lex

I can’t speak for others but I don’t come here much anymore because of trolls like you who make everything a zero sum game of arguing straw men. I could give a f about the media fear mongering or the politicians. I’ve only ever cared about the science, and as a pandemic unfolds before our eyes the science has been incredible and messy all at the same time, truly unprecedented. Science is always changing and testing hypothesis, and that’s why I trust it above all, but understand it can and will change direction as more research is done. That’s the scientific method, and about the only thing one can find any truth in even as its changing at warp speed.

How the **** am I trolling? By holding people accountable for their inconsistency and hypocrisy?

And you clearly haven’t been paying attention if you think I’m the one arguing straw men. I’ve been accused of saying shit 4-5 times in this thread that I didn’t.

[lewdog]

There are reeruns and idiots on both extremes.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle. Many states are able to be opening and working through the phases currently, using preventative measures as needed. Some states are doing well at this and tracking the numbers. Other states are still seeing rising numbers and shouldn’t be opening as quickly.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by arrwheader

Agree, thing is my new job wants me to start asap. They are actually not hurting at all since they develop software for e-learning. I'm leaning towards just taking the job and telling them that the furlough has put financial stress on me and my family and I have an employer that is wiling to pay me full time and wants me to start now so sorry about it.

I should mention I don't have anything to hand off as I we never started anything this year due to all the craziness. I just don't see the point in a two week notice and obviously they need to save the money anyway. But for some reason something nags at me about it. I Think its just the company will find a way to spin it like I am an asshole for not putting in a notice and I do like some of my co workers.

Your job is a business transaction. You do something for them...they do something for you. Right now they're not doing anything for you. Take the new job. Don't get sentimental.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by staylor26

How the **** am I trolling? By holding people accountable for their inconsistency and hypocrisy?

And you clearly haven’t been paying attention if you think I’m the one arguing straw men. I’ve been accused of saying shit 4-5 times in this thread that I didn’t.

My apologies to you then, I’m likely wrong labeling you. How about we don’t argue about social politics and focus the thread back on the plethora of science that has come out the last few days. Mostly positive news, and a lot of reasons to be optimistic.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Kidd Lex

My apologies to you then, I’m likely wrong labeling you. How about we don’t argue about social politics and focus the thread back on the plethora of science that has come out the last few days. Mostly positive news, and a lot of reasons to be optimistic.

Fair enough

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Rioting, destroying property and injuring people is better than chilling by a pool. Sweet take.

I think a half dozen people have been murdered so far during these "protest" but your ass needs to stay away from the barber you selfish prick.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I think a half dozen people have been murdered so far during these "protest" but your ass needs to stay away from the barber you selfish prick.

Don't you dare think about protesting against potential unconstitutional abuses of executive power through ruling by decree.

[Redbled]

I’ve taken this virus way more seriously than most and I still do. I have a twin daughter that has a history of kidney infections which gave her kidney scarring and now high blood pressure she’s on meds for. She’s in great health otherwise.

These “protests” are total BS. They are endangering people and doing WAY more harm than good. I’ve literally not heard one “protester” give solutions to what they see is a problem. People that just bitch without offering answers are pitiful. The murderer has been arrested. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t see that as justice. Discuss hiring more minority officers. Mandatory body cams. Etc. These people of all colors are destroying their communities not helping them.