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Old 05-30-2019, 08:22 PM  
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WR Byron Pringle is playing really well








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Old 07-22-2019, 02:56 PM   #241
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Another issue you'd have is that while you are showing you'll pay guys, you aren't really paying your own guys.

It's kinda whats been the problem with Jones in regards to the Frank Clark deal.
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:58 PM   #242
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Well maybe if they'd have played better as a defense we wouldnt be needing to trade for and sign Frank Clark and sign Mathieu...
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:03 PM   #243
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In today’s NFL, Tyreek is more valuable than Ramsey.

Think about week 1. Oh hey cool you have Ramsey, but we’re going in an empty formation with 5 receivers, so Ramsey now becomes only 20% effective whereas Tyreek has many different points of value. Out wide, in the slot, out of the backfield and on ST’s.

You can change matchup’s to get Tyreek away from #1 corners.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:14 PM   #244
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In today’s NFL, Tyreek is more valuable than Ramsey.

Think about week 1. Oh hey cool you have Ramsey, but we’re going in an empty formation with 5 receivers, so Ramsey now becomes only 20% effective whereas Tyreek has many different points of value. Out wide, in the slot, out of the backfield and on ST’s.

You can change matchup’s to get Tyreek away from #1 corners.
EHHH I dunno about that.

If theoretically you have a CB that can shut down a side of the field like that, that's pretty damn hard to find. It changes the math.

It's a fun discussion though.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:21 PM   #245
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EHHH I dunno about that.

If theoretically you have a CB that can shut down a side of the field like that, that's pretty damn hard to find. It changes the math.

It's a fun discussion though.
1 lock down corner isn't going to be able to take away half the field with us..and the speed we poses now. With all the different formations we run .. he will have to concentrate more on one man running by him. Lots of slant routs will be open. Kelce is going to have a monster year this year.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:25 PM   #246
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EHHH I dunno about that.

If theoretically you have a CB that can shut down a side of the field like that, that's pretty damn hard to find. It changes the math.

It's a fun discussion though.
In the old NFL sure, but this isn’t the old NFL where there’s 2 outside WR’s and a slot receiver.

The spread has come to the NFL and teams are lining up with 4 and 5 receivers more than ever before. You realistically need to have a really good slot corner, at least 1 good safety and 1 good coverage backer to defend in this new league.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:33 PM   #247
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:35 PM   #248
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In the old NFL sure, but this isn’t the old NFL where there’s 2 outside WR’s and a slot receiver.

The spread has come to the NFL and teams are lining up with 4 and 5 receivers more than ever before. You realistically need to have a really good slot corner, at least 1 good safety and 1 good coverage backer to defend in this new league.
It also wouldn't hurt to have a CB who can line up and cover everywhere and be an elite guy at doing it.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:38 PM   #249
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The only WR that has any real value to extract right now is Tyreek.

To be honest, I’d trade him for Ramsey right now....we’ll, maybe after the opener.
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In today’s NFL, Tyreek is more valuable than Ramsey.

Think about week 1. Oh hey cool you have Ramsey, but we’re going in an empty formation with 5 receivers, so Ramsey now becomes only 20% effective whereas Tyreek has many different points of value. Out wide, in the slot, out of the backfield and on ST’s.

You can change matchup’s to get Tyreek away from #1 corners.
Agreed. And the difference between Reek and the next guy is larger than the difference between Ramsey and the next guy IMO. Especially in Reids offense.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:44 PM   #250
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Tyreek roasted Ramsey.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:46 PM   #251
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Agreed. And the difference between Reek and the next guy is larger than the difference between Ramsey and the next guy IMO. Especially in Reids offense.
I think I agree.

My think with Tyreek is just the off field stuff and what is he gonna want in a contract.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:55 PM   #252
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You’re much more likely to get Hill at a “discount” than you are Ramsey.
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:54 PM   #253
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AT ALL.

Period.

Dude will be lucky to see the field, let alone make enough of an impact to be worth any sort of trade compensation.
Welp, you better put your trading brain on patna' cuz the only thing Dieter is fetching is one of those Costco shrink wrap, 10 pack of Pringle's potato chips.

And perhaps a hot dog at the food court!
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Old 07-22-2019, 07:43 PM   #254
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Old 07-22-2019, 07:48 PM   #255
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Just depends.

If Hill still wants 20 mil per and they feel uncomfortable doing that now, gotta do something different.

You'd have to pay Ramsey immediately and you don't know him whereas you've got Hill in house etc.

I seriously doubt they'd do it. But if Andy feels like he can get say 80% of Tyreek out of Hardman and they like some of these other young WR's, well....
I’m fascinated by the notion of people assuming Hardman is Reeks replacement. He is a perfect fit for what KC thought they were getting from Reek initially in round 5, when he was just a gadget weapon that could utilize 4.2 speed with end arounds, screens, occasional handoffs, and returns. Reek ended up being a complete surprise in terms of developing into a complete WR where he shocked everyone in terms of being able to become a legitamite WR1.

Hardman is going to be what we saw from Reeks first half of his rookie year. Occasional gadget plays and a return threat. He is not going to develop into a top 3 WR like Reek did and his expectations need to be treated as such.
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